From: Jon Snader <jsnader@ix.netcom.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] troff and 4.4BSD man pages
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 09:19:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040607131901.GA84365@ix.netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <066dnYC6OPYyzlzdRVn-jw@comcast.com>
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 08:55:11AM +0000, Douglas A. Gwyn wrote:
> boyd, rounin wrote:
> >i think we [Christophe ?] and i found that the registers could
> >be now named with multi char names, yesterday. iirc:
> > .nr foo 1 1
> > ...
> > \([foo]
> >now, that is not troff.
>
> What is especially unfortunate is that SoftQuad did a
> better job of designing such extensions to troff, but
> whoever did the above came up with an incompatible
> scheme.
What's unfortunate is that we are spending more and more of our
time on this list bashing Unix/Linux/Gnu, instead of addressing
the advantages and problems with Plan 9. It's always fun to stick
a finger in the eye of a competitor, of course, but providing a
vehicle for this pleasure is not my understanding of what Plan 9
is all about.
What's unfortunate is that our bashing is often misinformed, both
in spirit and in detail. The above comments are a case in point.
Is there anyone here who really maintains that the two character
name space in [nt]roff is not a disadvantage? Why should we
complain that groff has removed this disadvantage? Why should we
not remove it from [nt]roff? The answer given above is that the
extension is incompatible, but that is incorrect. The groff
rules for using registers are the same as for [nt]roff except
that register names greater than 3 characters use brackets
*instead* of the opening parenthesis:
\n[foo] (NOT \([foo])
\*[bar]
etc.
Since I have personally typeset many of the Version 7 papers with
groff, I can attest to its compatibility with [nt]roff.
What's unfortunate is that many of us here act as if no one else has
anything to teach us. Plan 9 is great software and a shining
example of excellence in design, but just maybe it isn't the
final answer on all questions.
jcs
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2004-06-01 11:09 [9fans] GNU Make lucio
2004-06-01 16:37 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-01 21:03 ` ron minnich
2004-06-01 21:09 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-01 21:43 ` Russ Cox
2004-06-01 21:49 ` ron minnich
2004-06-01 22:03 ` Russ Cox
2004-06-01 22:08 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-02 5:34 ` lucio
2004-06-02 7:36 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 9:07 ` John Murdie
2004-06-02 9:39 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 16:12 ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 16:24 ` lucio
2004-06-02 16:54 ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 16:56 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 6:41 ` lucio
2004-06-03 8:49 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 9:16 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 9:50 ` Error reporting (Was: [9fans] GNU Make) lucio
2004-06-03 14:01 ` rog
2004-06-03 13:54 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 14:19 ` rog
2004-06-03 14:18 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 14:31 ` lucio
2004-06-03 14:33 ` rog
2004-06-03 14:58 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 15:13 ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:17 ` rog
2004-06-03 16:12 ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 16:18 ` rog
2004-06-03 16:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 16:38 ` rog
2004-06-03 16:56 ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 17:03 ` rog
2004-06-03 17:15 ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 17:25 ` rog
2004-06-03 19:10 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 19:08 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 19:35 ` rog
2004-06-03 19:46 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 20:06 ` rog
2004-06-03 22:09 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-04 1:05 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-04 1:56 ` Scott Schwartz
2004-06-04 2:10 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-04 2:46 ` Russ Cox
2004-06-04 8:08 ` Charles Forsyth
[not found] ` <013301c449d2$95929d30$637f7d50@SOMA>
2004-06-04 12:16 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-08 15:17 ` rog
2004-06-03 14:06 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 14:21 ` rog
2004-06-03 10:31 ` [9fans] GNU Make lucio
2004-06-03 14:53 ` Rob Pike
2004-06-03 15:01 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 15:04 ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:16 ` Rob Pike
2004-06-03 15:33 ` rog
2004-06-03 15:40 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 15:58 ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:40 ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:20 ` [9fans] internationalised error messages boyd, rounin
2004-06-02 21:30 ` [9fans] GNU Make boyd, rounin
2004-06-02 8:54 ` Richard Miller
2004-06-02 9:17 ` lucio
2004-06-02 9:54 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 16:15 ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 17:00 ` Steve Simon
2004-06-03 5:14 ` lucio
2004-06-02 14:00 ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 14:36 ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-02 14:33 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 15:24 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 15:56 ` lucio
2004-06-02 16:11 ` lucio
2004-06-02 19:28 ` Joel Salomon
2004-06-03 4:43 ` [9fans] troff and 4.4BSD man pages Lyndon Nerenberg
2004-06-03 5:54 ` Taj Khattra
2004-06-03 8:26 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-07 8:55 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-06-07 13:19 ` Jon Snader [this message]
[not found] ` <z4udnTOQMJVTdlndRVn-jg@comcast.com>
2004-06-10 10:58 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-06-10 12:40 ` rog
2004-06-10 13:24 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-06-03 10:13 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03 10:17 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 10:27 ` lucio
2004-06-03 10:29 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03 10:26 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 11:18 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03 1:57 ` [9fans] GNU Make a
2004-06-03 3:31 ` Kenji Okamoto
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