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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] GNU Make
Date: Wed,  2 Jun 2004 08:36:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdbf637f1f2a8f97562e25f51faee4ef@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ffa2db088558e493a30ecad96ee426e@proxima.alt.za>

>>all Plan 9 software to use a library of error messages that also
>>includes a numeric code?

Numeric codes are a bad idea, that plan 9 was well rid of from unix.
they do not scale well in a distributed system with distributed development.

even the internet protocols that use them tend to degenerate into `good, bad, ugly'
based on the first digit (0, 4, 5 say).

it's just one reason that NFS had terrible trouble across systems with
different errno values.  precise diagnostics ended up being mapped into EIO,
which wasn't always the right answer, just because there was no portable
way to convert an arbitrary code from one system to an arbitrary code in another.
n*m indeed.  of course, you could have MegaErrnoInc act as a global
registry of mappings, as Sun tried with Sun RPC, but for this application it doesn't
work well.

some uniformity in the error strings would be desirable,
but numeric codes should not be used.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-02  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-01 11:09 lucio
2004-06-01 16:37 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-01 21:03   ` ron minnich
2004-06-01 21:09     ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-01 21:43     ` Russ Cox
2004-06-01 21:49       ` ron minnich
2004-06-01 22:03         ` Russ Cox
2004-06-01 22:08           ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-02  5:34     ` lucio
2004-06-02  7:36       ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2004-06-02  9:07         ` John Murdie
2004-06-02  9:39           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 16:12         ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 16:24           ` lucio
2004-06-02 16:54             ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 16:56               ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03  6:41                 ` lucio
2004-06-03  8:49                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03  9:16                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03  9:50                       ` Error reporting (Was: [9fans] GNU Make) lucio
2004-06-03 14:01                         ` rog
2004-06-03 13:54                           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 14:19                             ` rog
2004-06-03 14:18                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 14:31                                 ` lucio
2004-06-03 14:33                                 ` rog
2004-06-03 14:58                               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 15:13                                 ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:17                                 ` rog
2004-06-03 16:12                                   ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 16:18                                     ` rog
2004-06-03 16:18                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-03 16:38                                         ` rog
2004-06-03 16:56                                           ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 17:03                                             ` rog
2004-06-03 17:15                                               ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-03 17:25                                                 ` rog
2004-06-03 19:10                                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 19:08                                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 19:35                                             ` rog
2004-06-03 19:46                                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 20:06                                                 ` rog
2004-06-03 22:09                                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-04  1:05                                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-04  1:56                                                       ` Scott Schwartz
2004-06-04  2:10                                                         ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-04  2:46                                                           ` Russ Cox
2004-06-04  8:08                                                           ` Charles Forsyth
     [not found]                                                       ` <013301c449d2$95929d30$637f7d50@SOMA>
2004-06-04 12:16                                                         ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-08 15:17                                                       ` rog
2004-06-03 14:06                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 14:21                             ` rog
2004-06-03 10:31                       ` [9fans] GNU Make lucio
2004-06-03 14:53                         ` Rob Pike
2004-06-03 15:01                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 15:04                           ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:16                             ` Rob Pike
2004-06-03 15:33                               ` rog
2004-06-03 15:40                                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 15:58                                   ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:40                               ` lucio
2004-06-03 15:20                             ` [9fans] internationalised error messages boyd, rounin
2004-06-02 21:30         ` [9fans] GNU Make boyd, rounin
2004-06-02  8:54       ` Richard Miller
2004-06-02  9:17         ` lucio
2004-06-02  9:54           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 16:15           ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 17:00           ` Steve Simon
2004-06-03  5:14             ` lucio
2004-06-02 14:00       ` ron minnich
2004-06-02 14:36         ` C H Forsyth
2004-06-02 14:33           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 15:24         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-02 15:56           ` lucio
2004-06-02 16:11           ` lucio
2004-06-02 19:28             ` Joel Salomon
2004-06-03  4:43               ` [9fans] troff and 4.4BSD man pages Lyndon Nerenberg
2004-06-03  5:54                 ` Taj Khattra
2004-06-03  8:26                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-07  8:55                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-06-07 13:19                     ` Jon Snader
     [not found]                       ` <z4udnTOQMJVTdlndRVn-jg@comcast.com>
2004-06-10 10:58                         ` Aharon Robbins
2004-06-10 12:40                           ` rog
2004-06-10 13:24                             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-06-03 10:13                 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03 10:17                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 10:27                     ` lucio
2004-06-03 10:29                     ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03 10:26                       ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-03 11:18                         ` Bruce Ellis
2004-06-03  1:57             ` [9fans] GNU Make a
2004-06-03  3:31               ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-06-02 11:13 lucio
2004-06-02 16:24 Trickey, Howard W (Howard)
2004-06-02 16:31 ` lucio
2004-06-02 23:53 ` Dan Cross

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