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From: Jonathan Cast <jcast@ou.edu>
To: weigelt@metux.de,
	Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Announce: standalone libixp
Date: Tue,  3 Jul 2007 15:31:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707031531.31042.jcast@ou.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070703151059.GA20385@nibiru.local>

On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
<snip>

> The major problem is the inherent conflict
> between marked-based economoy (which IMHO grants the most personal
> freedom) and the concept of social wellfare. Both concepts cannot
> be merged within one system, since they conflict each other.
> But IMHO both concepts are necessary.
>
> So my idea is to do both things separately. The component of social
> wellfare is to give everyone enough money so he can afford evthing
> that's needed for life, including a home, food, clothes, communication,
> education, healtcare, etc. It's not very hard to calculate an value
> for some (well-defined) group of people within some region on the
> current marked prices. Simply give the people that value as an
> unconditional income, just because they're living Human. The really
> most of all "social systems" are immediately unnecessar at that point.
> The risk of poverty is immediately eliminated (of course people who
> are too sick to care for themselves are an very special and rare case,
> they'll need further assistance nevertheless). Additionally we need
> a few marked regulations for transparencey and reliability of some
> fundamental economic good, ie. insurance contracts w/o pitfalls, etc.
>
> Once we have ensured the constraint that evryone can afford all things
> important for living, we can give almost evrything to the marked.
> (leaves only a few implementation details to discuss). Most aspects
> of what's currently called basic social care (ie. playschool) can
> be done by private institutions. Non-profit ones could play a big
> role here.

And I thought /I/ was the only one.  Have we really gotten to the point in 
political science where sane ideas can be uttered safely in public?

<snip>

Jonathan Cast
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-core
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-emacs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-30 15:38 Enrico Weigelt
2007-06-30 16:47 ` Kris Maglione
2007-06-30 16:50   ` Kris Maglione
2007-06-30 17:30   ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-06-30 17:41     ` Kris Maglione
2007-07-01 12:50       ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-07-01 16:15         ` Iruata Souza
2007-07-01 10:11     ` Charles Forsyth
     [not found]     ` <dba1bd02516b1cfbf4119d7c567ec8e9@terzarima.net>
2007-07-01 12:42       ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-06-30 16:47 ` Uriel
2007-07-01 23:22   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-07-02  0:45     ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-07-03  3:50       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-07-03  4:09         ` Kris Maglione
2007-07-03 15:10         ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-07-03 19:45           ` Federico Benavento
2007-07-03 20:31           ` Jonathan Cast [this message]
2007-07-03 21:14             ` Wes Kussmaul
2007-07-03 21:51           ` Martin Neubauer
2007-07-03 23:16             ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-07-04  3:36               ` Iruata Souza

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