[9fans] o9fs

[9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

Hello 9fans,

As this years Google Summer of Code 2007 project mentored by the Plan
9 community I started writing a 9P client in form of a filesystem
driver for the OpenBSD operating system. The code is not ready for
daily use yet but maybe some of you would like to take a look or even
test it.
I set up a little placeholder for the project at
http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/iru/o9fs with the info one will need to get
the thing running.

Best,
iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Pietro Gagliardi]

OK, here's the process for giving it to the OpenBSD guys:
1) Replace strcpy()/strcat() with strlcpy()/strlcat() and don't write  
your own allocator, use theirs
2) Go to Security
3) Have them check out the code
4) Give the code to some licensing gurus
5) Have them examine the license (Lucent Public License)
6) Go back to Security
7) Have them run a long series of test cases
8) You'll probably get a long list of security holes
9) Fix them and give it back to Security
10) They'll check it out, and it'll become part of OpenBSD!
11) Wait 15 years
12) The team will find a security hole if your driver is run at  
startup, and there will be an increment on their number of holes at  
startup message on their website :-)

Now to become serious:
This will be nice. At least Linux is not the only real UNIX anymore :-)

On Nov 8, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Iruata Souza wrote:

> Hello 9fans,
>
> As this years Google Summer of Code 2007 project mentored by the Plan
> 9 community I started writing a 9P client in form of a filesystem
> driver for the OpenBSD operating system. The code is not ready for
> daily use yet but maybe some of you would like to take a look or even
> test it.
> I set up a little placeholder for the project at
> http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/iru/o9fs with the info one will need to get
> the thing running.
>
> Best,
> iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

ok, now go back to your parallel reality where linux is a real UNIX.

iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Aki Nyrhinen]

my unix is more real than your father's and mother's unixes combined.

On Nov 8, 2007 11:27 PM, Iruata Souza <iru.muzgo@gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, now go back to your parallel reality where linux is a real UNIX.
>
> iru
>

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

why did I think I could find some testers here?
back to 9p-hackers...

iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Christian Kellermann]

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* Iruata Souza <iru.muzgo@gmail.com> [071109 17:24]:
> why did I think I could find some testers here?
> back to 9p-hackers...

Matthias as well as I stumbled upon some issues. You will get a fix this weekend (I hope).

Christian

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Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

that´s why :]

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Pietro Gagliardi]

If you're writing a driver for OpenBSD, don't tell users of Plan 9 to  
test it, go to OpenBSD's people! :-) Good luck working!

On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Iruata Souza wrote:

> why did I think I could find some testers here?
> back to 9p-hackers...
>
> iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

On Nov 9, 2007 5:46 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> If you're writing a driver for OpenBSD, don't tell users of Plan 9 to
> test it, go to OpenBSD's people! :-) Good luck working!
>

I don't know if you did your homework on reading /sys/doc but, as a
Plan 9 user, you may record the name 9P from somewhere.


iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Pietro Gagliardi]

I must be confused. Are you writing a 9P driver for OpenBSD? If so,  
it's going to run on OpenBSD, and most of us may not be able to help  
you. Otherwise, ignore everything I say.

On Nov 9, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Iruata Souza wrote:

> On Nov 9, 2007 5:46 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>> If you're writing a driver for OpenBSD, don't tell users of Plan 9 to
>> test it, go to OpenBSD's people! :-) Good luck working!
>>
>
> I don't know if you did your homework on reading /sys/doc but, as a
> Plan 9 user, you may record the name 9P from somewhere.
>
>
> iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[David Leimbach]

On Nov 9, 2007 11:56 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> I must be confused. Are you writing a 9P driver for OpenBSD? If so,
> it's going to run on OpenBSD, and most of us may not be able to help
> you. Otherwise, ignore everything I say.
>
>

Why would you presume to speak for everyone though?  Someone here
might have the opportunity and interest to test this.  And it seems
like a pretty good start to ask people who might have Plan 9 Servers
running to do that testing.

It's this kind of crap that drives people away from Plan 9 by the way.

Dave

> On Nov 9, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Iruata Souza wrote:
>
> > On Nov 9, 2007 5:46 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> >> If you're writing a driver for OpenBSD, don't tell users of Plan 9 to
> >> test it, go to OpenBSD's people! :-) Good luck working!
> >>
> >
> > I don't know if you did your homework on reading /sys/doc but, as a
> > Plan 9 user, you may record the name 9P from somewhere.
> >
> >
> > iru
>
>

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Pietro Gagliardi]

OK, so I may be wrong. I'm currently in the process of installing a  
heck of a lot of systems onto QEMU (Fedora 8, Ubuntu 7.10, ReactOS,  
Minix) and I think I'll put OpenBSD on the list and test it out. The  
thing I don't know how to do: set up 9P.

On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:07 PM, David Leimbach wrote:

> On Nov 9, 2007 11:56 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>> I must be confused. Are you writing a 9P driver for OpenBSD? If so,
>> it's going to run on OpenBSD, and most of us may not be able to help
>> you. Otherwise, ignore everything I say.
>>
>>
>
> Why would you presume to speak for everyone though?  Someone here
> might have the opportunity and interest to test this.  And it seems
> like a pretty good start to ask people who might have Plan 9 Servers
> running to do that testing.
>
> It's this kind of crap that drives people away from Plan 9 by the way.
>
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 9, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Iruata Souza wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2007 5:46 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> If you're writing a driver for OpenBSD, don't tell users of Plan  
>>>> 9 to
>>>> test it, go to OpenBSD's people! :-) Good luck working!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if you did your homework on reading /sys/doc but, as a
>>> Plan 9 user, you may record the name 9P from somewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> iru
>>
>>

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Iruata Souza]

On Nov 9, 2007 5:56 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> I must be confused. Are you writing a 9P driver for OpenBSD? If so,
> it's going to run on OpenBSD, and most of us may not be able to help
> you. Otherwise, ignore everything I say.
>

yes, it's a filesystem driver for OpenBSD.
if you can't help, that's not a problem. people who understand 9P
better read this list and could be interested in taking a look even if
it's for OpenBSD.
nobody told me that only linux, os x and windows could be the other
operating systems discussed here. sorry breaking your rules.

iru

Re: [9fans] o9fs

[Tim Wiess]

> I must be confused. Are you writing a 9P driver for OpenBSD? If so,  
> it's going to run on OpenBSD, and most of us may not be able to help  
> you. Otherwise, ignore everything I say.

    obviously he's posting because some of us use OpenBSD on a
    regular basis along with Plan 9. in that case, this is extremely useful.
    quit being an ass or go away.