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From: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] non greedy regular expressions
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:08:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810272108.m9RL8AI4015465@skeeve.com> (raw)

> > As other mails have pointed out, anything that isn't leftmost longest
> > has weird semantics.  Non-greedy operators are mostly syntactic sugar.
>
> Is (leftmost-longest + all-greedy operators) syntactic salt then?

It is merely the traditional POSIX flavor.  Some people like that
flavor, some don't.

> > Not in the least. The Plan 9 regexp library in fact gives you close to
> > the same nirvana; an automata that has DFA speed characteristics with
> > the NFA's ability to capture sub texts.
>
> Does regexp(n) also give the lowlife any hint of why it should behave
> differently from Perl? Friedl's book doesn't, but it has good reason.

It is more that Perl simply was never part of the picture for the people
who develop(ed) and use(d) Plan 9.  It's like asking why the paper on
the Plan 9 C compiler doesn't state that C++ classes are not available.

The long-time users of Plan 9 were using Unix before Perl even came along;
for reasons having to do with both taste and the theoretical soundness,
they saw no reason to try to support the Perl features.  After all,
if you really want Perl, you know where to get it.

Me, I'm pretty happy with the traditional shell + sed + grep + awk
combinations, but then again, I'm biased, particularly towards awk.
:-)

Arnold



             reply	other threads:[~2008-10-27 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-27 21:08 Aharon Robbins [this message]
2008-10-28 14:53 ` Eris Discordia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-27 20:00 Eris Discordia
2008-10-28 14:51 ` Brian L. Stuart
2008-10-28 15:07   ` Eris Discordia
2008-10-27 19:23 Aharon Robbins
2008-10-27 20:15 ` Eris Discordia
2008-10-24 11:27 Aharon Robbins
2008-10-23 18:58 Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 19:05 ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-24  8:08   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 12:23     ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-24 16:11       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 16:54         ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-24 17:02         ` John Stalker
2008-10-24 17:15           ` Rob Pike
2008-10-24 17:41           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 18:01             ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 19:56               ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 21:10                 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 21:40                   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 21:47                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-24 22:04                       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 22:38                         ` Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
2008-10-24 22:54                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-10-24 22:59                           ` Charles Forsyth
2008-10-24 23:52                         ` Tom Simons
2008-10-25 22:35                           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-25 23:02                             ` Steve Simon
2008-10-26  8:57                             ` John Stalker
2008-10-26 18:36                               ` Eris Discordia
2008-10-27  4:55                             ` Russ Cox
2008-10-27  8:28                               ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-27 10:18                               ` Charles Forsyth
2008-10-27 13:13                                 ` Eris Discordia
2008-10-27 13:23                                   ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-27 19:42                                     ` Eris Discordia
2008-10-27 16:13                                   ` Brian L. Stuart
2008-11-30  8:29                             ` Yard Ape
2008-12-11 16:32                               ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-24 18:02             ` John Stalker
2008-10-24 17:10         ` Uriel
2008-10-24 19:56         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-10-24 19:56           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-26 21:23             ` Rob Pike

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