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From: errno <errno@cox.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105171802.08507.errno@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=cJZrMcPOOpamHt+HtaHVHSeEWxQ@mail.gmail.com>


Hey David, thanks for responding.

The sci-fi you write below is exactly the sort of fiction I'd find
very interesting in "9 space", and corresponds rather closely
to what I premised in a past thread[1].

So, I believe we're speaking the same language; but the picture
you've painted seems out-of-band to the drawterm-in-browser
idea presented by the OP; for instance:

> Instead of a "traditional web server platform" for web applications
> this could be an alternative deployment target.
>

If we're talking in terms of alternative deployment targets, then
we're talking about a controlled environment where we have
control over the installed software and hardware; but the
drawterm-in-javascript idea is intended for pre-deployed,
3rd-party accessibility to plan 9.

> Use a grid of Plan 9 machines with a "native" interface in JavaScript.
>
and:
> The one that doesn't look like a Plan 9 application, but instead looks
> like a useful application?
>

The drawterm-in-javascript-on-web-browser idea doesn't actually
provide a general-consumer-friendly interface to plan 9 - it just
amounts to window into the currently-existing plan 9 ui... we're still
talking text + libdraw, libpanel, libcontrol, libframe, etc..


I agree that an html + css + javascript ui on Plan 9 would be a
good and familiar way to get native Plan 9 applications into the
hands of general users; but this drawterm-in-javascript idea
does not facilitate the goal of a more "accessible/familiar"
WIMP environment for a general consumer market; though it
would be a useful tool once we finally did have a "native web"
within plan 9 itself, because then 'we' _could_ make good on
erik's:

> one would then be able to write applications for non-plan 9
> users in plan 9.

... in a way that would actually be appealing to non-plan 9
users.


[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/9fans@9fans.net/msg19990.html






  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17  7:00 Adrian Tritschler
2011-05-17  7:38 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-17 15:02   ` Russ Cox
2011-05-17 13:59 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2011-05-17 17:53   ` Joseph Stewart
2011-05-17 17:57     ` John Floren
2011-05-17 18:04       ` Joseph Stewart
2011-05-17 18:16         ` Jason Dreisbach
2011-05-17 18:00     ` Russ Cox
2011-05-17 15:08 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-17 17:23   ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-05-17 17:31     ` John Floren
2011-05-17 18:18       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-17 18:46         ` a z
2011-05-17 19:04           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-17 23:05           ` David Leimbach
2011-05-18  9:15         ` dorin bumbu
2011-05-18  9:40           ` a z
2011-05-17 22:49       ` errno
2011-05-17 23:40         ` Jacob Todd
2011-05-17 23:58           ` errno
2011-05-18  0:18             ` David Leimbach
2011-05-18  1:02               ` errno [this message]
2011-05-18  8:33           ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-18  9:49             ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-05-18 12:24             ` blstuart
2011-05-18 14:23               ` David Leimbach
2011-05-18 15:37               ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-18 15:46                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-20 12:41                   ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-19  1:04                 ` blstuart
2011-05-18 15:58               ` ComeauAt9Fans@gmail.com
2011-05-17 18:16     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-18  6:31     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-05-18  7:28       ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-18  7:30         ` Peter A. Cejchan

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