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* [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
@ 2011-09-15 14:01 Christoph Lohmann
  2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
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From: Christoph Lohmann @ 2011-09-15 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Hello,

now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
that Plan 9 is dead.

Rest In Peace.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
@ 2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
  2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
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From: Charles Forsyth @ 2011-09-15 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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excessive whimsy can be a little trying, but on a practical level,
i expect code and ideas to continue to move both ways, in some sense.

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From: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:01:46 +0200
Message-ID: <4E72054A.7060204@r-36.net>

Hello,

now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
that Plan 9 is dead.

Rest In Peace.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann

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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
  2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
@ 2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
  2011-09-15 16:42   ` Digby Tarvin
  2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
  2011-09-18  9:36 ` Pär Moberg
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: cinap_lenrek @ 2011-09-15 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

no, its just resting :-)

--
cinap



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2011-09-15 16:42   ` Digby Tarvin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Digby Tarvin @ 2011-09-15 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:26:03PM +0200, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> no, its just resting :-)
>
I'm just waiting for someone to comment on the beautiful plumage... :)

DigbyT
--
Digby R. S. Tarvin                                          digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
  2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
  2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
  2011-09-15 19:56   ` David Leimbach
  2011-09-18  9:36 ` Pär Moberg
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jack Norton @ 2011-09-15 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> Hello,
>
> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>
> Rest In Peace.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christoph Lohmann
>

FTFY



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
@ 2011-09-15 19:56   ` David Leimbach
  2011-09-15 20:17     ` Bakul Shah
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2011-09-15 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jack Norton <jack@0x6a.com> wrote:

> Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>>
>> Rest In Peace.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Christoph Lohmann
>>
>>
> FTFY
>
> Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death.  Death is the
gateway to a new beginning.

Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.

Dave

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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 19:56   ` David Leimbach
@ 2011-09-15 20:17     ` Bakul Shah
  2011-09-15 20:46       ` Bruce Ellis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bakul Shah @ 2011-09-15 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
> >>
> >> Rest In Peace.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Christoph Lohmann
> >>
> >>
> > FTFY
> >
> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death.  Death is the
> gateway to a new beginning.
>
> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.

Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 20:17     ` Bakul Shah
@ 2011-09-15 20:46       ` Bruce Ellis
  2011-09-15 21:53         ` Nick LaForge
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Ellis @ 2011-09-15 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

just when the bunny was out of the bag ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZbtpdckJA

On 16 September 2011 06:17, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>> >>
>> >> Rest In Peace.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Christoph Lohmann
>> >>
>> >>
>> > FTFY
>> >
>> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death.  Death is the
>> gateway to a new beginning.
>>
>> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
>
> Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!
>
>



-- 
Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 20:46       ` Bruce Ellis
@ 2011-09-15 21:53         ` Nick LaForge
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Nick LaForge @ 2011-09-15 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

O rinnovarsi o perire

http://books.google.com/books?id=n_p0TmPHIJwC&pg=PA166&q=O%20rinnovarsi%20o%20perire

Anyway, I guess you're pissed that you have to use Hg and install
Python?  Sorry, but Plan 9 can't reinvent the wheel in 2011.

Just consider how MIT dropped Scheme for Python in intro courses.  Toy
language construction no longer precedes practical programming;
likewise, who outside 9fans would use a replica replacement?  So why
write one?  Better to focus on what counts as Sussman did with
Scheme/SICP which is instead offered to advanced students who better
appreciate it (6.945).

Plus, it's never been a committee. (Would Plan 9 seem less dead to you
if others stopped working on it?)

On 9/15/11, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> just when the bunny was out of the bag ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZbtpdckJA
>
> On 16 September 2011 06:17, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>>> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>>> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>>> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>>> >>
>>> >> Rest In Peace.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sincerely,
>>> >>
>>> >> Christoph Lohmann
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > FTFY
>>> >
>>> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death.  Death is the
>>> gateway to a new beginning.
>>>
>>> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
>>
>> Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)
>
>



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
@ 2011-09-18  9:36 ` Pär Moberg
  2011-09-18  9:38   ` erik quanstrom
  2011-09-18  9:48   ` dexen deVries
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pär Moberg @ 2011-09-18  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
idea/information?

2011-09-15 16:01, Christoph Lohmann skrev:
> Hello,
>
> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> that Plan 9 is dead.
>
> Rest In Peace.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christoph Lohmann



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-18  9:36 ` Pär Moberg
@ 2011-09-18  9:38   ` erik quanstrom
  2011-09-18  9:48   ` dexen deVries
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2011-09-18  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

On Sun Sep 18 05:37:22 EDT 2011, ghst@ghstwlf.com wrote:
> I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
> idea/information?

slashdot.

- erik



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
  2011-09-18  9:36 ` Pär Moberg
  2011-09-18  9:38   ` erik quanstrom
@ 2011-09-18  9:48   ` dexen deVries
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: dexen deVries @ 2011-09-18  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Sunday 18 September 2011 11:36:24 Pär Moberg wrote:
> I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
> idea/information?


`dead' is roundaboud way of saying Plan 9 became fertile grounds for systems 
software research.

cue in the ``Systems Software Research is Irrelevant (aka utah2000 or 
utah2k)'' presentation by rob

also ``The systems you remember so fondly (TOPS-20, ITS, Multics, Lisp 
Machine, Cedar/Mesa, the Dorado) are not just out to pasture, they are 
fertilizing it from below.'' -- dmr in anti-foreword to `Unix-haters 
handbook'.

above all, have fun. i may end up installing Inferno on my N900 :-)



> 
> 2011-09-15 16:01, Christoph Lohmann skrev:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> > dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> > political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> > that Plan 9 is dead.
> > 
> > Rest In Peace.
> > 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > Christoph Lohmann

-- 
dexen deVries

> It's called trolling. It's been done since there were bangs in people's 
email addresses.

thaumaturgy, on HN



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
@ 2011-09-15 16:52 EBo
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From: EBo @ 2011-09-15 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Digby Tarvin, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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It's feeling better... (I'm waiting for someone to start singing)

Sent from my Android phone on T-Mobile. America’s first nationwide 4G network.

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From: "Digby Tarvin" <digbyt@acm.org>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 12:42


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:26:03PM +0200, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> no, its just resting :-)
> 
I'm just waiting for someone to comment on the beautiful plumage... :)

DigbyT
-- 
Digby R. S. Tarvin                                          digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com


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2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
2011-09-15 19:56   ` David Leimbach
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2011-09-15 20:46       ` Bruce Ellis
2011-09-15 21:53         ` Nick LaForge
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