* [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
@ 2011-09-15 14:01 Christoph Lohmann
2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
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From: Christoph Lohmann @ 2011-09-15 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Hello,
now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
that Plan 9 is dead.
Rest In Peace.
Sincerely,
Christoph Lohmann
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
@ 2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
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From: Charles Forsyth @ 2011-09-15 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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excessive whimsy can be a little trying, but on a practical level,
i expect code and ideas to continue to move both ways, in some sense.
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From: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:01:46 +0200
Message-ID: <4E72054A.7060204@r-36.net>
Hello,
now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
that Plan 9 is dead.
Rest In Peace.
Sincerely,
Christoph Lohmann
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
@ 2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
2011-09-15 16:42 ` Digby Tarvin
2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
2011-09-18 9:36 ` Pär Moberg
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From: cinap_lenrek @ 2011-09-15 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
no, its just resting :-)
--
cinap
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2011-09-15 16:42 ` Digby Tarvin
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From: Digby Tarvin @ 2011-09-15 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:26:03PM +0200, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> no, its just resting :-)
>
I'm just waiting for someone to comment on the beautiful plumage... :)
DigbyT
--
Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
2011-09-15 15:57 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-09-15 16:26 ` cinap_lenrek
@ 2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
2011-09-15 19:56 ` David Leimbach
2011-09-18 9:36 ` Pär Moberg
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From: Jack Norton @ 2011-09-15 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> Hello,
>
> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>
> Rest In Peace.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christoph Lohmann
>
FTFY
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
@ 2011-09-15 19:56 ` David Leimbach
2011-09-15 20:17 ` Bakul Shah
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From: David Leimbach @ 2011-09-15 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jack Norton <jack@0x6a.com> wrote:
> Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>>
>> Rest In Peace.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Christoph Lohmann
>>
>>
> FTFY
>
> Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death. Death is the
gateway to a new beginning.
Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
Dave
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 19:56 ` David Leimbach
@ 2011-09-15 20:17 ` Bakul Shah
2011-09-15 20:46 ` Bruce Ellis
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From: Bakul Shah @ 2011-09-15 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
> >>
> >> Rest In Peace.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Christoph Lohmann
> >>
> >>
> > FTFY
> >
> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death. Death is the
> gateway to a new beginning.
>
> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 20:17 ` Bakul Shah
@ 2011-09-15 20:46 ` Bruce Ellis
2011-09-15 21:53 ` Nick LaForge
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From: Bruce Ellis @ 2011-09-15 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
just when the bunny was out of the bag ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZbtpdckJA
On 16 September 2011 06:17, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>> >>
>> >> Rest In Peace.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Christoph Lohmann
>> >>
>> >>
>> > FTFY
>> >
>> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death. Death is the
>> gateway to a new beginning.
>>
>> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
>
> Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!
>
>
--
Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 20:46 ` Bruce Ellis
@ 2011-09-15 21:53 ` Nick LaForge
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From: Nick LaForge @ 2011-09-15 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
O rinnovarsi o perire
http://books.google.com/books?id=n_p0TmPHIJwC&pg=PA166&q=O%20rinnovarsi%20o%20perire
Anyway, I guess you're pissed that you have to use Hg and install
Python? Sorry, but Plan 9 can't reinvent the wheel in 2011.
Just consider how MIT dropped Scheme for Python in intro courses. Toy
language construction no longer precedes practical programming;
likewise, who outside 9fans would use a replica replacement? So why
write one? Better to focus on what counts as Sussman did with
Scheme/SICP which is instead offered to advanced students who better
appreciate it (6.945).
Plus, it's never been a committee. (Would Plan 9 seem less dead to you
if others stopped working on it?)
On 9/15/11, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> just when the bunny was out of the bag ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZbtpdckJA
>
> On 16 September 2011 06:17, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:54 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> > Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
>>> >> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
>>> >> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
>>> >> that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
>>> >>
>>> >> Rest In Peace.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sincerely,
>>> >>
>>> >> Christoph Lohmann
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > FTFY
>>> >
>>> > Giving a new direction to plan 9 is, in a sense, a death. Death is the
>>> gateway to a new beginning.
>>>
>>> Plan 9 is dead, long live Plan 9.
>>
>> Don't nix Plan9! Nix Plan9!
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)
>
>
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-15 14:01 [9fans] Plan 9 is dead Christoph Lohmann
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2011-09-15 18:21 ` Jack Norton
@ 2011-09-18 9:36 ` Pär Moberg
2011-09-18 9:38 ` erik quanstrom
2011-09-18 9:48 ` dexen deVries
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From: Pär Moberg @ 2011-09-18 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
idea/information?
2011-09-15 16:01, Christoph Lohmann skrev:
> Hello,
>
> now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> that Plan 9 is dead.
>
> Rest In Peace.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christoph Lohmann
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-18 9:36 ` Pär Moberg
@ 2011-09-18 9:38 ` erik quanstrom
2011-09-18 9:48 ` dexen deVries
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2011-09-18 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sun Sep 18 05:37:22 EDT 2011, ghst@ghstwlf.com wrote:
> I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
> idea/information?
slashdot.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
2011-09-18 9:36 ` Pär Moberg
2011-09-18 9:38 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2011-09-18 9:48 ` dexen deVries
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From: dexen deVries @ 2011-09-18 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Sunday 18 September 2011 11:36:24 Pär Moberg wrote:
> I don't get this, could some one point out where Mr. Lohmann got this
> idea/information?
`dead' is roundaboud way of saying Plan 9 became fertile grounds for systems
software research.
cue in the ``Systems Software Research is Irrelevant (aka utah2000 or
utah2k)'' presentation by rob
also ``The systems you remember so fondly (TOPS-20, ITS, Multics, Lisp
Machine, Cedar/Mesa, the Dorado) are not just out to pasture, they are
fertilizing it from below.'' -- dmr in anti-foreword to `Unix-haters
handbook'.
above all, have fun. i may end up installing Inferno on my N900 :-)
>
> 2011-09-15 16:01, Christoph Lohmann skrev:
> > Hello,
> >
> > now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
> > dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
> > political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
> > that Plan 9 is dead.
> >
> > Rest In Peace.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Christoph Lohmann
--
dexen deVries
> It's called trolling. It's been done since there were bangs in people's
email addresses.
thaumaturgy, on HN
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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
@ 2011-09-15 16:52 EBo
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From: EBo @ 2011-09-15 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Digby Tarvin, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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It's feeling better... (I'm waiting for someone to start singing)
Sent from my Android phone on T-Mobile. America’s first nationwide 4G network.
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From: "Digby Tarvin" <digbyt@acm.org>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 is dead
Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 12:42
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:26:03PM +0200, cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote:
> no, its just resting :-)
>
I'm just waiting for someone to comment on the beautiful plumage... :)
DigbyT
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