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From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 15:34:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151127143458.GA692@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHL7psH_mL-WaszdcPNgR5XCmic9Zx=KijyuanvPZXvphkxrDw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 03:07:30PM +0100, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> Funny, but actually I was wondering if there is any subtle issue in the
> standards of the C language that makes it somehow hard to implement.

I guess it depends on what is the "standard". The naked C language is
(was) simple. The guaranteed routines were something else: the C
library---contrary to Pascal, for example, where some routines were
part of the language.

That's the way I understand Charles' irony: it seems difficult to find a
more simple (and efficient) language as C.

There are problem with standards but there are far more problems with
people that do not refer to standards and do not know what they use.
Using Plan9' APE is a good way, for example, to ensure that one is only
using POSIX. Yes, it is not up-to-date since POSIX evolves; but failing
to compile with APE is generally not due to missing pieces in APE but to
fuzzy use of things outside POSIX in the program one wants to compile.

BTW this was already the case when the Plan9 paper about APE was
written. But it's getting worse.
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        Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-27 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-25 17:10 Vasudev Kamath
2015-11-25 17:15 ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-25 17:24   ` Vasudev Kamath
2015-11-26 12:08     ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-27 16:50   ` Vasudev Kamath
2015-11-27 16:59     ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-27 17:16       ` Vasudev Kamath
2015-11-27 18:24         ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-29  9:41           ` Vasudev Kamath
2015-11-29 14:38             ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-27 18:11   ` trebol
2015-11-26 12:10 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 12:18   ` David du Colombier
2015-11-26 18:15   ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-26 21:31     ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 21:49       ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-26 21:51         ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 21:56           ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 22:02             ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-26 22:08               ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 22:30                 ` David du Colombier
2015-11-26 23:08                   ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-26 23:21                     ` Charles Forsyth
2015-11-26 23:41                       ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-27  0:02                       ` Brantley Coile
2015-11-27  8:13                       ` Giacomo Tesio
2015-11-27  8:56                         ` arnold
2015-11-27 13:33                           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2015-11-28  0:55                             ` erik quanstrom
2015-11-30 15:46                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2015-11-27 12:42                         ` tlaronde
2015-11-27 14:07                           ` Giacomo Tesio
2015-11-27 14:34                             ` tlaronde [this message]
2015-11-28  1:01                             ` erik quanstrom
2015-11-27 12:05                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2015-11-27 12:32       ` lucio
2015-11-26 21:40     ` Andrew Simmons
2015-11-28  6:42 da Tyga
2015-11-28  7:40 ` Brantley Coile
2015-11-28 20:31   ` Anthony Sorace
2015-11-28 23:33     ` Brantley Coile
2015-11-29  6:12       ` lucio
2015-11-28 20:13 ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-11-29  5:57   ` lucio
2015-11-29 16:17     ` tlaronde

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