[9fans] smtp

[9fans] smtp

[Tim Newsham]

I'm playing with mail trying to get outgoing mail to work through
upas/smtp to smtp.gmail.com.  I think I got through some hurdles
but I have some questions and comments:

- The man page smtp(8) has some minor issues:
   - It lists the "-a" option more than once
   - The text in the second "-a" section does not appear in the
     formatted man page or web page completely (compare with src).
   - It hints at putting keys in the factotum but not much info
     is given.
- The wiki doesn't mention putting keys in the factotum for
   upas/smtp at all.
- If upas/smtp is run and cannot find a key in the factotum, it
   bombs out but gives little reason as to why.  I had to trace
   through the program to find out what I was doing wrong.

My magic incantations to get a test running, after installing
the server certificate signature as per the wiki was:

   $ echo 'key proto=pass service=smtp server=smtp.gmail.com 
user=me@gmail.com !password=mypwrocks' >/mnt/factotum/ctl
   $ echo test | upas/smtp -d -a -u me@gmail.com smtp.gmail.com fromme 
newsham@lava.net

- What is the preferred way to prep the factotum with auth info
   for upas/smtp?   What is the context that upas/smtp is invoked in?
   Should this be in the termrc/cpurc?  or in the user's login profile?
- When smtp needs a -a and/or -u option what is the preferred way
   to configure this?  Is it proper to edit the /mail/lib/remotemail
   script for this purpose?

Tim Newsham
http://www.lava.net/~newsham/

Re: [9fans] smtp

[Federico Benavento]

>    Should this be in the termrc/cpurc?  or in the user's login profile?
I have a this in my profile :
cat $home/lib/keys > /mnt/factotum/ctl
and of course the keys file with all my keys

> - When smtp needs a -a and/or -u option what is the preferred way
>    to configure this?  Is it proper to edit the /mail/lib/remotemail
>    script for this purpose?
I added -a in /mail/lib/remotemail. The -u option is unnecessary because
the username is in the factotum key.

-- 
Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] smtp

[andrey mirtchovski]

>>    Should this be in the termrc/cpurc?  or in the user's login profile?
> I have a this in my profile :
> cat $home/lib/keys > /mnt/factotum/ctl
> and of course the keys file with all my keys

isn't that what secstore is for?

Re: [9fans] smtp

[Federico Benavento]

> cat $home/lib/keys > /mnt/factotum/ctl
sorry, /mnt/factotum/ctl doesn´t support multiline writes.
what I have is a keys file with a bounch of echos.

-- 
Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] smtp

[Federico Benavento]

 > isn't that what secstore is for?
yes, indeed.

-- 
Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] smtp

[William Staniewicz]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:17:48AM -0500, Russ Cox wrote:
> I think ndb/cs tries to infer your system
> name from the ethernet address.  A decent
> alternative is to set sysname, either in
> plan9.ini or /bin/termrc before the invocation
> of ndb/cs.
>
Putting "sysname=localhost" in /rc/bin/termrc
worked in getting /dev/sysname filled in.
Although, it did not correct the overall problem
of tcp. I thought it might but it's a step in the
right direction.

Bill

Re: [9fans] smtp

[Russ Cox]

I think ndb/cs tries to infer your system
name from the ethernet address.  A decent
alternative is to set sysname, either in
plan9.ini or /bin/termrc before the invocation
of ndb/cs.

Russ

Re: [9fans] smtp

[William Staniewicz]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:23:31AM -0500, anothy@cosym.net wrote:
> ndb/cs is responsible for
> setting /dev/sysname. if
> you're not running that,
> it won't be set, regardless
> of what's in /lib/ndb/*
> -.

After logging on and before doing "aux/listen tcp" I ran

	"ndb/cs -n"

to attempt to work around that but a "cat /dev/sysname"
showed it still to be empty.

My /rc/bin/termrc has the default entry to run ndb/cs
(I think). So I guess that would have been done at
boot too.

Any idea why "ndb/cs -n" is not setting sysname?

Bill

Re: [9fans] smtp

[anothy]

ndb/cs is responsible for
setting /dev/sysname. if
you're not running that,
it won't be set, regardless
of what's in /lib/ndb/*
-α.

[9fans] smtp

[William Staniewicz]

Quick question... I hope...
    
does <your machine> mean what "sys=" or what is found in
/dev/sysname?
    
If so... I have a problem relating to that and it may be
something in /ndb/local.
    
In /ndb/local I have ...
    
        sys = localhost
    
however, when I do a "cat /dev/sysname" the file is empty...
    
maybe I missed something in the early stages of setting things
up and it's coming back to haunt me.

Bill