* [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment @ 2001-01-31 11:27 Russ Cox 2001-02-01 8:08 ` Quinn Dunkan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2001-01-31 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I have set up a Plan 9 wiki. A wiki is a web server that anyone on the internet can edit, traditionally by using a web browser. The one I have set up is a bit different from the others since it can be accessed either using a web browser or using an Acme client. The wiki itself is provided by a file system (what else?) that runs underneath the web server or underneath the Acme client. This means that it is equally accessible to Plan 9 and non-Plan 9 users. I have seeded the wiki with the contents of the Plan 9 "Getting Started" document, but my hope is that various readers of this list will find it worth their while to fix up or add whatever they feel is wrong, unclear, or missing. I think that collectively we can do a good job of presenting useful information in an accessible manner. Recent converts especially may have a much better feel for what needs more explanation than is currently there. There is, of course, a huge potential for abuse. Please don't. If the server fills with various objectionable material, we'll take it down, and I really don't want to do that. The web interface is at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9, and you can download the Acme client from the usual updates page. Enjoy. Russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment 2001-01-31 11:27 [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment Russ Cox @ 2001-02-01 8:08 ` Quinn Dunkan 2001-02-01 8:01 ` Dan Cross ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Quinn Dunkan @ 2001-02-01 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > I have set up a Plan 9 wiki. Darn you! That was going to be my project :) Oh well, I'm sure you did it better than I could have. Although a random nit is that, for the web interface, the generated links point to http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/14 instead of http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/14/ or http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/14/index.html which forces the browser to do a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to get the real address every time you follow a link. Very cool, though. > There is, of course, a huge potential for abuse. > Please don't. If the server fills with various > objectionable material, we'll take it down, and > I really don't want to do that. I guess that means the transvestite angora fetish ascii porn is out... [ dmr ] > similar points. I'm more the let-a-hundred-flowers-bloom kind of guy. How about let-a-hundred-weeds-overgrow? :) It's still better than monoculture or toxic wasteland (although I guess you could say the current field has aspects of both). It's still possible to find or make beautiful things in a toxic wasteland, even if it's not as much fun. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment 2001-02-01 8:08 ` Quinn Dunkan @ 2001-02-01 8:01 ` Dan Cross [not found] ` <cross@math.psu.edu> 2001-02-14 21:43 ` [9fans] KFS Crash Mark C. Otto 2001-02-27 14:08 ` [9fans] PS2 vs Com1 Mouse Problems Mark C. Otto 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Cross @ 2001-02-01 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans In article <200102010808.AAA00583@tammananny.tiger> you write: >It's still possible to find or make beautiful things in a >toxic wasteland, even if it's not as much fun. You know, I was going to say: Yeah, just look at Bell Labs: They're in New Jersey, but they still make some pretty beautiful software. But then I realized that that wouldn't be funny except outside of New Jersey. (okay, okay, I'm avoiding the rotten fruit now and getting ready to get on an airplane. Apologies all around for the off-topic pot shot at Jersey, but, hey---it was too hard to resist.... :-) - Dan C. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment [not found] ` <cross@math.psu.edu> @ 2001-02-01 19:38 ` Tom Duff 2001-02-05 18:55 ` Dan Cross 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Tom Duff @ 2001-02-01 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > You know, I was going to say: > > Yeah, just look at Bell Labs: They're in New Jersey, but they > still make some pretty beautiful software. > > But then I realized that that wouldn't be funny except outside of > New Jersey. > > (okay, okay, I'm avoiding the rotten fruit now and getting ready to > get on an airplane. Apologies all around for the off-topic pot shot > at Jersey, but, hey---it was too hard to resist.... :-) You know, I was at Murray Hill for twelve years, but every time someone brings up the suburban horrors of New Jersey, I'm forced to remember the first time I visited Bell Labs (July 1975.) The directions we were given were `From New York, get onto Route 22, go to the first MacDonalds, turn right just past the arches, go right at the tee, up the hill to Mountain Ave, etc.' Now, the first MacDonalds was about a 20 mile drive through the worst of strip-mall New Jersey, but after those two quick rights (past the unmentioned cement quarry), we were in the beautiful woods of the Watchung Reservation. It was like something out of The Divine Comedy, as we passed from the inferno to paradise... The area has been built up a bit since then, but still, especially when the leaves are falling in October, you can still get a little feeling of entering a magic place as you climb the Watchung mountains to Murray Hill. (Of course, the gebrauchsarchitektur of the liquid nitrogen plant and the lab buildings at MH pretty much destroy the illusion, but you miss those if you go through the front door.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] plan 9 wiki experiment 2001-02-01 19:38 ` Tom Duff @ 2001-02-05 18:55 ` Dan Cross 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Cross @ 2001-02-05 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans In article <10102011138.ZM43426@marvin> you write: >You know, I was at Murray Hill for twelve years, but every time someone >brings up the suburban horrors of New Jersey, I'm forced to remember >the first time I visited Bell Labs (July 1975.) The directions we were given >were `From New York, get onto Route 22, go to the first MacDonalds, turn >right just past the arches, go right at the tee, up the hill to Mountain >Ave, etc.' Now, the first MacDonalds was about a 20 mile drive through >the worst of strip-mall New Jersey, but after those two quick rights (past >the unmentioned cement quarry), we were in the beautiful woods of the >Watchung Reservation. It was like something out of The Divine Comedy, >as we passed from the inferno to paradise... > >The area has been built up a bit since then, but still, especially >when the leaves are falling in October, you can still get a little feeling >of entering a magic place as you climb the Watchung mountains to Murray >Hill. (Of course, the gebrauchsarchitektur of the liquid nitrogen plant >and the lab buildings at MH pretty much destroy the illusion, but you miss >those if you go through the front door.) Hmm.... The one and only time I was at Murray Hill was many years ago. I remember being particularly impressed with the stairs outside; they looked like they'd be a lot of fun to skateboard on. While I'm sure that New Jersey has some nice parts, the places I see most frequently are pretty depressing (Hoboken, Newark, etc). I must admit, however, that my friend's place in Weehawken (opposite 42nd St) is pretty nice and has a stunning view of Manhattan; better, indeed, than any view one can get from Manhattan itself. When I was at Penn State, one could avail oneself of some pretty spectacular scenery. I always thought that the campus itself was very beautiful, as well. I don't know how much it's changed since I left, though. Scott? - Dan C. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [9fans] KFS Crash 2001-02-01 8:08 ` Quinn Dunkan 2001-02-01 8:01 ` Dan Cross @ 2001-02-14 21:43 ` Mark C. Otto 2001-02-14 21:57 ` Scott Schwartz 2001-02-27 14:08 ` [9fans] PS2 vs Com1 Mouse Problems Mark C. Otto 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-14 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I had bad addresses and 9p message start filling the screen. Rio locked up, and I didn't see any way to get out of it, so I rebooted. Unfortunately, I couldn't even boot up, not even with my boot floppy. kfs...boot: nop...File system main inconsistent Would you like to ream it (y/n)? tag = <badtag>;Tdir kfs init 5: FID1 attach to root boot: read nop: file does not exist panic: boot process died: unknown ktrace /kernel/path 8010649e 8026bdb4 8026bd54=801063a3 8026hd64=80171915 ... cpu0: exiting Looks like I am going to have to reinstall the system, unless my terminal is just trying to be sympathetic with Russ's. :-( I have the following questions: 1. If rio crashes is there a way to kill rio and get back to the shell? 2. Given that I could, what diagnostics could I run to identify the problem? 3. Is there a way to repair the disk at this point? 4. Given that you don't have much faith in kfs and some of us are using it exclusively on our standalone terminals, what sort of maintainance, such as disk/kfscmd check, should we be doing? Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] KFS Crash 2001-02-14 21:43 ` [9fans] KFS Crash Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-14 21:57 ` Scott Schwartz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Scott Schwartz @ 2001-02-14 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Would you like to ream it (y/n)? tag = <badtag>;Tdir It's kinda bad that it doesn't give you a chance to answer the question. A kfs on a rescue floppy would at least let you check the filesystem and maybe recover something. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [9fans] PS2 vs Com1 Mouse Problems 2001-02-01 8:08 ` Quinn Dunkan 2001-02-01 8:01 ` Dan Cross 2001-02-14 21:43 ` [9fans] KFS Crash Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-27 14:08 ` Mark C. Otto 2001-02-27 15:48 ` Mark C. Otto 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-27 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I made the mistake of having a PS2 mouse and a serial mouse hooked up at different times during the install process (indecision and a dearth of 3-button mice). My setup seems confused about which it has. If I run echo $mouseport, I get the proper ps2, but aux/mouse -n $mouseport returns aux/mouse: can't open #t/eiapsctl - file does not exist From reading uart(3) p. 438, it seems to be treating the mouse as a serial device and expecting $mouseport to be 0 or 1 in bind -a #t/eia^$mouseport^ctl /dev Not having a mouse or rio, this is hard to see where to correct this. Thanks for any help. Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] PS2 vs Com1 Mouse Problems 2001-02-27 14:08 ` [9fans] PS2 vs Com1 Mouse Problems Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-27 15:48 ` Mark C. Otto 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Mark C. Otto @ 2001-02-27 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans At Russ's suggestion, I tried aux/mouse ps2 which set the mouse. My brain fart was using mouseport=ps instead of mouseport=ps2 in my plan9.ini. That fixed my problems with the mouse, vga, and rio (see [9fans] Rio on Install but Not on Boot, Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:04:22 -0500). The install went very smoothly otherwise. Thanks Russ. Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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