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From: Jack Johnson <fragment@nas.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Webbrowser
Date: Wed,  5 Feb 2003 11:56:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E416C6A.7040903@nas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030205191626.18577.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>

Scott Schwartz wrote:
> By the way, in my opinion the only reason HTML survived at all is because
> of NCSA Mosaic, which was the first fun way for people to look at other
> people's GIFs, and the hacky notation it adopted was simple enough and
> just barely good enough for the crude page layout that people wanted
> to do, with absolutely no consideration for SGML sensibilities until
> long after the fact.

The same could be said of email's roots, where now it's often
encumbered/enhanced by enriched text, HTML formatting, or alternate
character sets that weren't necessarily envisioned previously.

We always try to use our tools for something other than their original
intent.  What you see as HTML's failing is also HTML's strength.  It's
more *our* failing for using it as some kind of panacea.  Plus, HTML
over HTTP beats sucking down PostScript files via gopher, wais or ftp.

After all, where was troff's presence during the gopher years?  What
ever happened to HyperTeX ( http://xxx.lanl.gov/hypertex/ )?  There are
always better alternatives, but more often we're willing to settle for
just good enough.

-Jack



  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-05 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <stalker@Math.Princeton.EDU>
2003-02-05 17:54 ` John Stalker
2003-02-05 19:16   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-05 19:56     ` Jack Johnson [this message]
2006-11-15 12:09 [9fans] webbrowser jackson john
2006-11-15 12:32 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-15 17:56   ` csant
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-06 15:09 [9fans] Webbrowser C H Forsyth
2003-02-06 14:22 C H Forsyth
2003-02-06 14:21 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06  0:56 okamoto
2003-02-05 22:57 C H Forsyth
2003-02-05 20:44 Keith Nash
2003-02-05 22:27 ` John Packer
2003-02-05 22:55   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-06  0:53     ` John Packer
2003-02-06  1:19       ` Russ Cox
2003-02-06  2:13       ` Peter Bosch
2003-02-05  1:04 Joel Salomon
2003-02-05  1:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-04 20:04 martin
2003-02-04 21:01 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-05  7:36   ` Micah Stetson
2003-02-05  9:44   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-05 10:19     ` Ian Broster
2003-02-05 17:10       ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-05 17:12       ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-05 17:19         ` Boyd Roberts
2003-02-05 17:53         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-06  2:36         ` Andrey S. Kukhar
2003-02-06 21:06           ` Russ Cox
2003-02-08  0:49             ` Andrey S. Kukhar
2003-02-05 10:22     ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-04 21:17 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-04 21:20   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-04 21:49     ` Jack Johnson

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