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From: "J.R. Mauro" <jrm8005@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] v9fs question
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:00:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3aaafc130907131700s37775edbte7d098625c345479@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18cf509dd60d3bf587780a5076946111@quanstro.net>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM, erik quanstrom<quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
>> It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root
>> and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus
>> would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed
>> like chroots: a security feature no one but pros needs. Unfortunately
>> not many linux devs seem to care about plan 9, and that has a negative
>> impact on how much stuff can happen. Hopefully we'll gradually wear
>> them down, or keep a minifork/patchset.
>
> i think if the linux folks really appreciated what one
> could do with namespaces, a number of the
> container bolt-on things could be implemented in terms
> of namespace.

So much cruft would go right out the window if only it were accessible.

>
> (then again, i have a feeling the same could be said of
> plan 9.)

Of course, everything has cruft. But Plan 9 is decent to imitate since
it is less crufty.

>
> it's quite interesting to see how taking the seemingly-
> conservative approach at every turn can take you
> much further from v7 than even pretty radical breaks
> like plan 9.
>
> - erik
>

Agreed.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-14  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-11 18:46 Tim Newsham
2009-07-11 18:50 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-11 19:03   ` Tim Newsham
2009-07-11 19:47     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-11 20:03     ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-12  3:19       ` Uriel
2009-07-13  8:24     ` sqweek
2009-07-13  8:51       ` hiro
2009-07-13 14:20       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 20:44         ` hiro
2009-07-13 21:45           ` hiro
2009-07-13 22:05             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 22:18               ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-13 23:16                 ` ron minnich
2009-07-13 23:22                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 23:37                     ` ron minnich
2009-07-13 23:47                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 23:41                   ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-13 23:50                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14  0:00                       ` J.R. Mauro [this message]
2009-07-14  0:06                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14  0:01                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14  0:08                       ` ron minnich
2009-07-14  0:46                         ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-14  0:42                       ` J.R. Mauro
2009-07-14  0:58                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14  1:28                           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-07-14  1:35                             ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-07-14  2:05                             ` Tim Newsham
2009-07-14  0:42                   ` Tim Newsham
2009-07-14  0:50                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14  0:56                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14  4:51                     ` lucio
2009-07-14  4:29                 ` lucio
2009-07-14  4:26               ` lucio
2009-07-13 22:00           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 19:05         ` sqweek
2009-07-14 20:11           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 14:59       ` lucio
2009-07-13 15:04         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-13 15:08       ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-07-13 19:51         ` Tim Newsham
2009-07-14  7:34         ` sqweek
2009-07-14 11:08           ` roger peppe
2009-07-14 11:20             ` hiro
2009-07-14 12:48             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 15:45             ` ron minnich
2009-07-14 16:31             ` Tim Newsham
2009-07-14 20:21               ` roger peppe
2009-07-14 13:10           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 13:23             ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14 14:26               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 14:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14 14:33           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-07-14 14:54             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 15:01               ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14 15:13                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 15:19                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14 15:37                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 16:12                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-07-14 16:19                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 15:06               ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-07-14 15:48                 ` ron minnich
2009-07-14 15:59                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-07-14 14:37           ` Latchesar Ionkov

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