Re: [9fans] v9fs question

["J.R. Mauro" <jrm8005@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen<ericvh@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnich<rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
>>>> anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces.
>>>> That's probably fine on your desktop, but not on a server where 20
>>>> people try to mount something under /mnt/foo or whatnot.
>>>
>>> Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
>>> allowed) behavior?
>>
>> It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root
>> and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus
>> would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed
>> like chroots: a security feature no one but pros needs. Unfortunately
>> not many linux devs seem to care about plan 9, and that has a negative
>> impact on how much stuff can happen. Hopefully we'll gradually wear
>> them down, or keep a minifork/patchset.
>>
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> When things get further along we can do a coordinated assault :)

Indeed :)

> We've got bits of mindshare spread out over different places including
> a couple of the major distributions, if things can be made optional

We've got Greg KH and Christoph on our side. I'm sure viro would also
be a voice in our favor, and he has some pull with Linus

> they'll make it into mainline and then we just need to focus on
> education by presenting demos at places like OLS, Plumbers, and LCA --
> and maybe get some good video podcast tutorials up on YouTube to get
> people wanting and using the features.  Of course the main thing is
> finding a niche that needs the features and selling them on it.  The
> focus on cloud computing and other cluster type solutions in
> mainstream computing may be helpful there.

Yes, showing people the benefits of /net and how simple clustering is
will be the path to victory. People will be amazed when they see how
easy it is to make 5 computers pretend to be one.

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>        -eric
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