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From: "David Leimbach" <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: everything is a directory
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e1162e60708201814i7218d1bdxb2c04c845eeba0a9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C68662A0-EC6F-4DA2-B129-1D3153413D50@mac.com>

Hmmm who's Dave L?  I thought I was Dave L, but this isn't me Dave L.

Super :-)

On 8/20/07, dave.l@mac.com <dave.l@mac.com> wrote:
> > The answer to that seems obvious.  A single bit could determine
> > whether
> > or not an attribute is transient or more permanent.
>
> So now our attributes have an attribute.
> How kewl is that?
> What about the state of the attribute's attribute:
> do you copy that when you copy the attribute?
> Is it optional or mandatory?
> What's the default, Kenneth?
>
> As has been stated before,
> it's then non-extensibility of the file system and file access
> protocols that makes them wonderful.
>
> Poor analogy:
> the file interface is like having a standardised range of nuts and
> bolts:
> you can build wonderful things with them simply;
> attributes is like having loads of optional options on your nuts and
> bolts
> that you don't need and just get in the way.
>
>
> > Finally, to argue that files are not objects seems silly.  They ARE
> > objects.
>
> "You're merely confounding the issue by playing a naive semantical
> game":-).
> Files are objects in the same sense that C-style arrays-of-characters
> are string objects.
>
>
> > Should I search the archives for boyd for my entertainment :-)
>
> You could do that.
> Alternatively, you could keep on talking about <spit>file attributes</
> spit>:
> I can sense him spinning already.
> If this nonsense goes on he'll probably start channelling through
> some poor unfortunate random 9fan sometime soon.
>
> I don't know ...
> 9fans is so full of noise these days ...
> If it's not C++ it's eye candy and if it's not eye candy it's file
> system abuse.
>
> It's the best OS in the known universe:
> why can't people try to improve it instead of making it look like
> all the other pukebucket OSes out there?
> (Exeunt left mumbling and shaking head).
>
> DaveL.
>
> P.S. Did you mean "transient" ("lasting only for a short time")?
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-16  9:30 [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 10:42 ` maht
2007-08-16 11:47   ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17  8:41   ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 12:39 ` [9fans] " Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-16 14:01 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 14:39   ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-16 15:58   ` maht
2007-08-16 17:45     ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 19:01       ` ron minnich
2007-08-16 19:37         ` Robert Sherwood
2007-08-16 20:49           ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17  8:42             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17 13:00               ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 13:24                 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17 13:35                   ` plan9
2007-08-17 14:22                     ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 14:29                       ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 14:29                         ` Richard Miller
2007-08-17 14:49                         ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 17:49                           ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 18:09                             ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-20  8:48                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20  8:48                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:29                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:53                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 15:02                     ` Rob Pike
2007-08-21  8:48                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21  8:47                     ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-21  8:47                 ` jsnx
2007-08-23  8:50                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-24  8:39                 ` jsnx
2007-08-29  9:06                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-30  8:35                 ` jsnx
2007-08-30 13:18                   ` David Leimbach
2007-08-31  9:07                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-31 18:04                       ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-01 12:07                         ` Uriel
2007-09-02  1:11                           ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-02  2:14                             ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-02  5:01                               ` Anthony Martin
2007-09-02 13:00                             ` Uriel
2007-09-02 16:53                               ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03  7:50                                 ` Uriel
2007-09-03 16:40                                   ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03 19:51                                     ` Uriel
2007-09-09 21:41                                   ` roger peppe
2007-09-03  9:27                             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-03 11:03                               ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17 14:27               ` [9fans] " David Leimbach
2007-08-17  4:11           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-17  8:42     ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-17 13:25       ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17  0:39   ` [9fans] " Uriel
2007-08-17  8:59     ` matt
2007-08-17 12:05       ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20  8:47       ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-20  9:00         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 11:34           ` Tom Lieber
2007-08-20 11:40             ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 13:33               ` Uriel
2007-08-20 17:36             ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 18:26               ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 18:48                 ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 19:52               ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-08-20 21:28                 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-20 21:40                   ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 22:05                     ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21 11:29                       ` Brantley Coile
2007-08-21 17:54                       ` Robert Raschke
2007-08-22  7:38                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2007-08-20 22:12                     ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21  0:37                       ` dave.l
2007-08-21  1:14                         ` David Leimbach [this message]
2007-08-21  1:25                           ` Uriel
2007-08-21  1:44                             ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21  8:48                             ` app
2007-08-22  8:47                             ` jsnx
2007-08-22  9:54                             ` app
2007-08-22 11:22                               ` roger peppe
2007-08-22 11:30                               ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-23  8:49                             ` jsnx
2007-08-21  1:26                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-21  1:28                           ` Uriel
2007-08-22  8:47                     ` jsnx
2007-08-20 21:57                   ` Uriel
2007-08-20 22:08                     ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21  8:48             ` jsnx
2007-08-20 11:17         ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 17:40         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-20 17:52           ` Uriel
2007-08-23  8:49           ` jsnx
2007-08-23 10:35             ` Steve Simon
2007-08-24  8:40             ` jsnx
2007-08-24  8:57               ` Martin Neubauer
2007-08-24 10:55               ` David Leimbach
2007-09-06  4:06                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29  9:06               ` jsnx
2007-08-30  1:41                 ` Uriel
2007-09-06  5:06                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29  9:06             ` jsnx
2007-08-23 15:29           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21  8:48         ` jsnx
2007-08-21 11:22           ` Uriel
2007-08-21 15:05           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-20  8:48     ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17  8:42 ` [9fans] " jsnx

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