From: "David Leimbach" <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: everything is a directory
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e1162e60708201814i7218d1bdxb2c04c845eeba0a9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C68662A0-EC6F-4DA2-B129-1D3153413D50@mac.com>
Hmmm who's Dave L? I thought I was Dave L, but this isn't me Dave L.
Super :-)
On 8/20/07, dave.l@mac.com <dave.l@mac.com> wrote:
> > The answer to that seems obvious. A single bit could determine
> > whether
> > or not an attribute is transient or more permanent.
>
> So now our attributes have an attribute.
> How kewl is that?
> What about the state of the attribute's attribute:
> do you copy that when you copy the attribute?
> Is it optional or mandatory?
> What's the default, Kenneth?
>
> As has been stated before,
> it's then non-extensibility of the file system and file access
> protocols that makes them wonderful.
>
> Poor analogy:
> the file interface is like having a standardised range of nuts and
> bolts:
> you can build wonderful things with them simply;
> attributes is like having loads of optional options on your nuts and
> bolts
> that you don't need and just get in the way.
>
>
> > Finally, to argue that files are not objects seems silly. They ARE
> > objects.
>
> "You're merely confounding the issue by playing a naive semantical
> game":-).
> Files are objects in the same sense that C-style arrays-of-characters
> are string objects.
>
>
> > Should I search the archives for boyd for my entertainment :-)
>
> You could do that.
> Alternatively, you could keep on talking about <spit>file attributes</
> spit>:
> I can sense him spinning already.
> If this nonsense goes on he'll probably start channelling through
> some poor unfortunate random 9fan sometime soon.
>
> I don't know ...
> 9fans is so full of noise these days ...
> If it's not C++ it's eye candy and if it's not eye candy it's file
> system abuse.
>
> It's the best OS in the known universe:
> why can't people try to improve it instead of making it look like
> all the other pukebucket OSes out there?
> (Exeunt left mumbling and shaking head).
>
> DaveL.
>
> P.S. Did you mean "transient" ("lasting only for a short time")?
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-21 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-16 9:30 [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 10:42 ` maht
2007-08-16 11:47 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17 8:41 ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 12:39 ` [9fans] " Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-16 14:01 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 14:39 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-16 15:58 ` maht
2007-08-16 17:45 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 19:01 ` ron minnich
2007-08-16 19:37 ` Robert Sherwood
2007-08-16 20:49 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 8:42 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17 13:00 ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 13:24 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17 13:35 ` plan9
2007-08-17 14:22 ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 14:29 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 14:29 ` Richard Miller
2007-08-17 14:49 ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 17:49 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 18:09 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-20 8:48 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 8:48 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:29 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:53 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 15:02 ` Rob Pike
2007-08-21 8:48 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21 8:47 ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-21 8:47 ` jsnx
2007-08-23 8:50 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-24 8:39 ` jsnx
2007-08-29 9:06 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-30 8:35 ` jsnx
2007-08-30 13:18 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-31 9:07 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-31 18:04 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-01 12:07 ` Uriel
2007-09-02 1:11 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-02 2:14 ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-02 5:01 ` Anthony Martin
2007-09-02 13:00 ` Uriel
2007-09-02 16:53 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03 7:50 ` Uriel
2007-09-03 16:40 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03 19:51 ` Uriel
2007-09-09 21:41 ` roger peppe
2007-09-03 9:27 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-03 11:03 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17 14:27 ` [9fans] " David Leimbach
2007-08-17 4:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-17 8:42 ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-17 13:25 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17 0:39 ` [9fans] " Uriel
2007-08-17 8:59 ` matt
2007-08-17 12:05 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 8:47 ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-20 9:00 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 11:34 ` Tom Lieber
2007-08-20 11:40 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 13:33 ` Uriel
2007-08-20 17:36 ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 18:26 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 18:48 ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 19:52 ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-08-20 21:28 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-20 21:40 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 22:05 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21 11:29 ` Brantley Coile
2007-08-21 17:54 ` Robert Raschke
2007-08-22 7:38 ` andrey mirtchovski
2007-08-20 22:12 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21 0:37 ` dave.l
2007-08-21 1:14 ` David Leimbach [this message]
2007-08-21 1:25 ` Uriel
2007-08-21 1:44 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21 8:48 ` app
2007-08-22 8:47 ` jsnx
2007-08-22 9:54 ` app
2007-08-22 11:22 ` roger peppe
2007-08-22 11:30 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-23 8:49 ` jsnx
2007-08-21 1:26 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-21 1:28 ` Uriel
2007-08-22 8:47 ` jsnx
2007-08-20 21:57 ` Uriel
2007-08-20 22:08 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21 8:48 ` jsnx
2007-08-20 11:17 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 17:40 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-20 17:52 ` Uriel
2007-08-23 8:49 ` jsnx
2007-08-23 10:35 ` Steve Simon
2007-08-24 8:40 ` jsnx
2007-08-24 8:57 ` Martin Neubauer
2007-08-24 10:55 ` David Leimbach
2007-09-06 4:06 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29 9:06 ` jsnx
2007-08-30 1:41 ` Uriel
2007-09-06 5:06 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29 9:06 ` jsnx
2007-08-23 15:29 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21 8:48 ` jsnx
2007-08-21 11:22 ` Uriel
2007-08-21 15:05 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-20 8:48 ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17 8:42 ` [9fans] " jsnx
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