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From: Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: everything is a directory
Date: Mon,  3 Sep 2007 09:50:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d375e920709030050v567c6b76re3276b8f144e8f8f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7871fcf50709020953q20bcd619o6e2b6a0fd0e9d9ff@mail.gmail.com>

Disgusting indeed, but it might even work with no changes to 9P; it
might confuse some clients, but doesn't sound easily doable given some
basic naming conventions (of course, then you lose the possibility to
cd into that dir and run ls there, which is the main reason I thought
an extension to the file name would make more sense)

uriel

On 9/2/07, Joel C. Salomon <joelcsalomon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/2/07, Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And actually, I think one could have something similar to Douglas
> > suggestion in Plan 9 without changing the kernel or the vfs, or even
> > the file servers, just have a stackable file server which for every
> > original file /foo.txt allows you to access a /foo.txt@extendedjunk/
> > dir where all the extended attributes or whatever can live, that would
> > even keep backwards compatibility with all existing tools (tools that
> > don't know about @extendedjunk/ dirs would not even see them unless
> > they explicitly walk to them, so you could use cd
> > /foo.txt@extenedjunk/, followed of ls and cat to inspect the
> > attributes, but if you do cat /* or ls / you would get a sensible
> > output.
>
> Or how about this:  Just as you don't need read permissions on a
> directory to walk it -- so long as you know the name of the file you
> want -- how about 9p allowing walks to ordinary files.  /foo.txt will
> exist, and reads work as usual, but /foo.txt/metadata.xml (of course
> it's all buzzword-compliant XML!) can be walked to and manipulated.
> Disgusting, eh?
>
> --Joel
>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-03  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-16  9:30 [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 10:42 ` maht
2007-08-16 11:47   ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17  8:41   ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-16 12:39 ` [9fans] " Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-16 14:01 ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 14:39   ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-16 15:58   ` maht
2007-08-16 17:45     ` David Leimbach
2007-08-16 19:01       ` ron minnich
2007-08-16 19:37         ` Robert Sherwood
2007-08-16 20:49           ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17  8:42             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17 13:00               ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 13:24                 ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17 13:35                   ` plan9
2007-08-17 14:22                     ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 14:29                       ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 14:29                         ` Richard Miller
2007-08-17 14:49                         ` ron minnich
2007-08-17 17:49                           ` David Leimbach
2007-08-17 18:09                             ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-20  8:48                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20  8:48                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:29                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-20 14:53                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 15:02                     ` Rob Pike
2007-08-21  8:48                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21  8:47                     ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-21  8:47                 ` jsnx
2007-08-23  8:50                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-24  8:39                 ` jsnx
2007-08-29  9:06                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-30  8:35                 ` jsnx
2007-08-30 13:18                   ` David Leimbach
2007-08-31  9:07                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-31 18:04                       ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-01 12:07                         ` Uriel
2007-09-02  1:11                           ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-02  2:14                             ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-02  5:01                               ` Anthony Martin
2007-09-02 13:00                             ` Uriel
2007-09-02 16:53                               ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03  7:50                                 ` Uriel [this message]
2007-09-03 16:40                                   ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-03 19:51                                     ` Uriel
2007-09-09 21:41                                   ` roger peppe
2007-09-03  9:27                             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-03 11:03                               ` Charles Forsyth
2007-08-17 14:27               ` [9fans] " David Leimbach
2007-08-17  4:11           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-17  8:42     ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-17 13:25       ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-17  0:39   ` [9fans] " Uriel
2007-08-17  8:59     ` matt
2007-08-17 12:05       ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20  8:47       ` [9fans] " jsnx
2007-08-20  9:00         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-08-20 11:34           ` Tom Lieber
2007-08-20 11:40             ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 13:33               ` Uriel
2007-08-20 17:36             ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 18:26               ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 18:48                 ` Paweł Lasek
2007-08-20 19:52               ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-08-20 21:28                 ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-20 21:40                   ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 22:05                     ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21 11:29                       ` Brantley Coile
2007-08-21 17:54                       ` Robert Raschke
2007-08-22  7:38                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2007-08-20 22:12                     ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21  0:37                       ` dave.l
2007-08-21  1:14                         ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21  1:25                           ` Uriel
2007-08-21  1:44                             ` David Leimbach
2007-08-21  8:48                             ` app
2007-08-22  8:47                             ` jsnx
2007-08-22  9:54                             ` app
2007-08-22 11:22                               ` roger peppe
2007-08-22 11:30                               ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-23  8:49                             ` jsnx
2007-08-21  1:26                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-21  1:28                           ` Uriel
2007-08-22  8:47                     ` jsnx
2007-08-20 21:57                   ` Uriel
2007-08-20 22:08                     ` Robert William Fuller
2007-08-21  8:48             ` jsnx
2007-08-20 11:17         ` erik quanstrom
2007-08-20 17:40         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-08-20 17:52           ` Uriel
2007-08-23  8:49           ` jsnx
2007-08-23 10:35             ` Steve Simon
2007-08-24  8:40             ` jsnx
2007-08-24  8:57               ` Martin Neubauer
2007-08-24 10:55               ` David Leimbach
2007-09-06  4:06                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29  9:06               ` jsnx
2007-08-30  1:41                 ` Uriel
2007-09-06  5:06                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-08-29  9:06             ` jsnx
2007-08-23 15:29           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-21  8:48         ` jsnx
2007-08-21 11:22           ` Uriel
2007-08-21 15:05           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-08-20  8:48     ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-08-17  8:42 ` [9fans] " jsnx

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