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[boyd.roberts]

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god forbid...



                                                                  
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>>might be necessary if we port inferno to macos X, where 1-button mice
>>are standard...

i might have known.




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Re: [9fans] Réf. : Re: [9fans] 3rd edition Inferno questions

[Scott Schwartz]

|  menuhit() is the way to do it.

The linear menus could be improved too: radial "pie" menus can be used
without looking, and with mouse-ahead.

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[boyd.roberts]

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keyboard 'accelerators' are an admission that the mouse
driven interface _does not work_, or is too painfull to use.

on windows i use them, because it's expedient, because the
mouse interface is broken.  menuhit() is the way to do it.



                                                                  
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<rog@vitanuova.com> wrote in message news:20000925101648.6D4AD19A18@mail...
> the simple solution is: get a 3 button mouse.

indeed. but who knows how long these will still be available?

> any better ideas?

heretical as it may be, how about adding ^X, ^C and ^V? i've written an
editor along the lines of acme in Java, and i offer these as alternatives to
chording. i find it particularly useful when transferring text between my
editor and other Windows programs, copying a URI from Internet Explorer into
a file, for example. somehow it's easier for my brain to finish its
^C-then-^V program than it is to switch half-way through to the third third
of its b1b2-then-b1b3-then-b1b3 program.

it's also handy when i have to use someone else's machine, and can't just
get a 3-button mouse. and it would mean acme wouldn't need the 'Cut',
'Paste' and 'Snarf' entries in various tags. and it means that people used
to other editors don't need to learn as much straight away.

 - e



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[boyd.roberts]

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no, just get a garden variety logitech M-CAA43 [Pilot Mouse].

not like those great swiss blit/5620 mice, but better than a hit in the head.



                                                                  
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> Acme requires 3 button mouse, but many windows users (me included)
> using 2 button mouse.  What I can do?

the simple solution is: get a 3 button mouse. (on mice with
scroll-wheels, the wheel acts as the middle button).

you can use shift+left button to get a middle button action, but that's
not sufficient for acme, or other apps that use acme's chording.

i guess it should be possible to make three otherwise unused keys on
the keyboard act like mouse buttons (f1, f2 and f3, for example). this
might be necessary if we port inferno to macos X, where 1-button mice
are standard...

any better ideas?

  rog.




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[9fans] Réf. : Re: [9fans] 3rd edition Inferno questions

[boyd.roberts]

    Acme requires 3 button mouse, but many windows users (me included)
    using 2 button mouse.  What I can do?

buy a three button mouse.