[9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Mark Bucciarelli]

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Hi,

Can someone here point me to where I can download
the text version of the Nemo book?

Calibre's PDF2ePub isn't cutting it.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Iain Watson Smith]

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JhhxXuFQPPLVBURU9iZEJhc28/view?usp=sharing

i'm sharing a word copy on google drive.

On 1 October 2015 at 13:08, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone here point me to where I can download
> the text version of the Nemo book?
>
> Calibre's PDF2ePub isn't cutting it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Mark Bucciarelli]

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Thanks, that worked.

By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
There are two books mentioned:
Plan 9: Volume 1: Kernel Source Code
Plan 9: Volume 2: Summaries & Commentary

Mark

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Iain Watson Smith <iainws@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JhhxXuFQPPLVBURU9iZEJhc28/view?usp=sharing
>
> i'm sharing a word copy on google drive.
>
> On 1 October 2015 at 13:08, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone here point me to where I can download
>> the text version of the Nemo book?
>>
>> Calibre's PDF2ePub isn't cutting it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Brantley Coile]

I saw a copy when I was at the Labs in 1990. It was very early in Plan 9’s evolution so it would be mostly of historic interest today. I got the impression that neither John nor the OS designers were particularly pleased with the commentary. I enjoyed reading it, but Nemo’s books closer to today’s systems.

To answer your question, I don’t have a copy.

Brantley

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that worked.
> 
> By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
> notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
> circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
> There are two books mentioned:
> Plan 9: Volume 1: Kernel Source Code
> Plan 9: Volume 2: Summaries & Commentary
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Iain Watson Smith <iainws@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JhhxXuFQPPLVBURU9iZEJhc28/view?usp=sharing
> 
> i'm sharing a word copy on google drive.
> 
> On 1 October 2015 at 13:08, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone here point me to where I can download
> the text version of the Nemo book?
> 
> Calibre's PDF2ePub isn't cutting it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[lucio]

> To answer your question, I don’t have a copy.

I seem to recall that it was eventually released in the public domain?

Lucio.

Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Charles Forsyth]

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On 1 October 2015 at 13:06, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:

> By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
> notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
> circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
> There are two books mentioned:
>

It's on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lions-Commentary-UNIX-Source-Code/dp/1573980137/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443706815&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Lions-Commentary-Unix-John/dp/1573980137/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443706940&sr=8-1

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Charles Forsyth]

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On 1 October 2015 at 14:43, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1 October 2015 at 13:06, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
>> notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
>> circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
>> There are two books mentioned:
>>
>
> It's on Amazon:


And it's also off Amazon: http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Brantley Coile]

I think he meant the Plan 9 Lion’s commentary, not the Sixth Edition one.

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1 October 2015 at 14:43, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 October 2015 at 13:06, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
> By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
> notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
> circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
> There are two books mentioned:
> 
> It's on Amazon:
> 
> And it's also off Amazon: http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/

Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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This isn't the answer to the original question, but if  you like that type
of decomposition of OS, xv6 is a good one:

https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2014/xv6/book-rev8.pdf


On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Brantley Coile <brantleycoile@me.com> wrote:

> I think he meant the Plan 9 Lion’s commentary, not the Sixth Edition one.
>
> > On Oct 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1 October 2015 at 14:43, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 1 October 2015 at 13:06, Mark Bucciarelli <mkbucc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > By the way, is there any version of the John Lyons
> > notes on Plan 9 from 1989?  They Lyons books says
> > circulation was restricted to distribution Bell Labs.
> > There are two books mentioned:
> >
> > It's on Amazon:
> >
> > And it's also off Amazon: http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Charles Forsyth]

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On 1 October 2015 at 15:48, Brantley Coile <brantleycoile@me.com> wrote:

> I think he meant the Plan 9 Lion’s commentary, not the Sixth Edition one.


Yes, and that was in the text I quoted in my reply!

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Re: [9fans] copy of 9.txt.gz?

[Andrew Simmons]

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 4:53 am, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1 October 2015 at 15:48, Brantley Coile <brantleycoile@me.com> wrote:
> I think he meant the Plan 9 Lion’s commentary, not the Sixth Edition one.
> 
> Yes, and that was in the text I quoted in my reply!


This from jmk to the list iin 2001:

I would have let this one by but as the spirit of the great Jimi was
invoked I feel compelled to reply.

Here's what appeared on the list last time this came up:

	From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
	Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:17:55 -0400

	> In the Peer-to-Peer edition of the Lion's book, there is a brief
	> mention of a booklet that Lion wrote commenting on Plan 9 source.
	> This was apparently during his last sabbatical (1989 or so).
	> Presumably this implies something on the order of the 1st edition.
	> Would THIS beast be available?

	No.  Even for the very very early version of the system it described,
	it was incomplete and somewhat confused.  John was really looking
	for a new version of the Unix kernel and didn't find it. I'm not sure
	if any copies exist, but if they do, I still wouldn't distribute them.
	They are a poor description of the system and an unworthy legacy for
	for John Lions.

	-rob

No machine-readable copy exists and Rob's last sentence is spot on.

--jim