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From: Jack Norton <jack@0x6a.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:50:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AAE663F.1080207@0x6a.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6dc96eb834906054ed328111976a6b5@quanstro.net>

erik quanstrom wrote:
>> So what about having venti on an AoE device, and fossil on a local drive
>> (say an ssd even)?
>>
>
> sure.  we keep the cache on the coraid sr1521 as well.
>
>
>> How would you handle (or: how would venti handle), a
>> resize of the AoE device?
>>
>
> that would depend on the device structure of ken's fs.
> as long as you don't use the pseudo-worm device, it wouldn't
> care.  the worm would simply grow.  if you use the pseudo-worm
> device (f), changing the size of the device would fail since
> the written bitmap is at a fixed offset from the end of the
> device.  and if you try to read an unwritten block, the f
> panics the file server.  i stopped using the f device.
>
> - erik
>
>
I am going to try my hands at beating a dead horse:)
So when you create a Venti volume, it basically writes '0's' to all the
blocks of the underlying device right?  If I put a venti volume on a AoE
device which is a linux raid5, using normal desktop sata drives, what
are my chances of a successful completion of the venti formating (let's
say 1TB raw size)?   Have you ever encountered such problems, or are you
using more robust hardware?
I ask because I have in the past, failed a somewhat-used sata drive
while creating a venti volume (it subsequently created i/o errors on
every os I used on it, although it limped along).  I must say it is
quite a brutal process, creating venti (at least I get that impression
from the times I have done it in the past).
If linux is my raid controller, I know that it is _very_ picky about how
long a drive takes to respond and will fail a drive if it has to wait
too long.

By the way I am currently buying a few pieces of cheap hardware to
implement my own diskless fileserver.  Should be ready to go in about a
couple of weeks.

-Jack



  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-14 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-04  0:53 Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  1:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  9:37   ` matt
2009-09-04 14:30     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 16:54     ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04 12:24   ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-04 12:41     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 13:56       ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-04 14:10         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 18:34           ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]       ` <48F03982350BA904DFFA266E@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-07 20:02         ` Uriel
2009-09-08 13:32           ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-04 16:52   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04 17:27     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 17:37       ` Jack Norton
2009-09-04 18:33         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-08 16:53           ` Jack Norton
2009-09-08 17:16             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-08 18:17               ` Jack Norton
2009-09-08 18:54                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-14 15:50                   ` Jack Norton [this message]
2009-09-14 17:05                     ` Russ Cox
2009-09-14 17:48                       ` Jack Norton
2009-09-04 23:25   ` James Tomaschke
2009-09-14 16:43 erik quanstrom
2009-09-20 20:13 ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-21  3:37   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 17:43     ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-21 18:02       ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 18:49         ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-09-21 19:21           ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 20:57             ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-09-21 22:42               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 10:59             ` matt
2009-09-21 19:10         ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-21 20:30           ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 20:57             ` Jack Norton
2009-09-21 23:38               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 22:07             ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-21 23:35               ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-22  0:45                 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found]               ` <6DC61E4A6EC613C81AC1688E@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-21 23:50                 ` Eris Discordia

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