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From: Nicolas Bercher <nbercher@yahoo.fr>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] octopus paper
Date: Fri,  2 Mar 2012 17:41:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F50F82B.2030001@yahoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL4LZyhYY7sVXVmJNrjgok3vz2cuj1RvP6Xk+jjL+sdaVi=VeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/03/2012 17:27, John Floren wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Nicolas Bercher<nbercher@yahoo.fr>  wrote:
>> On 02/03/2012 13:11, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley.
>>>
>>> On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesteros<nemo@lsub.org>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> WoW! I hate them.
>>>> It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely…
>>>> I'll talk to you off list.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here at CNRS, you are starting to struggle against this crazy system:
>>
>>   1) we pay to submit papers
>>   2) we pay to read papers from others
>>   3) we have to pay more if we want our papers to be freely accessible
>>   4) we are not paid for peer review
>>
>> 4 times a shame, at least.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>
> Unless Elsevier is even more evil that I thought, Nemo should still be
> able to post a PDF on lsub.org. Now, if they're really evil, they got
> exclusive rights...

Yes, this is point 5) I forgot.  Once your paper is submitted and if you
want to publish it via any other fees-less channel, say, this list, I
think you need to slightly modifidy your paper.  Basically, you give
your rights to the publishor/editor on the paper you submitted.  We
could state that they now own about ~95% of human knowledge, published
in the form of specific papers.  Somehow, this is scaring.

Nicolas



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-02 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-02  9:37 Francisco J Ballesteros
2012-03-02 10:24 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-03-02 10:29   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2012-03-02 12:11     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-03-02 15:56       ` Jeff Sickel
2012-03-02 16:23       ` Nicolas Bercher
2012-03-02 16:27         ` John Floren
2012-03-02 16:32           ` Nemo
2012-03-02 16:39             ` Jeff Sickel
2012-03-02 16:52             ` Nemo
2012-03-02 16:41           ` Nicolas Bercher [this message]
2012-03-02 17:54         ` tlaronde
2012-03-02 18:47 ` Jack Johnson
2012-03-02 19:23   ` Nemo

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