* [9fans] ports duplication
@ 2010-03-07 19:49 Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-07 20:02 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-03-08 4:26 ` lucio
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From: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) @ 2010-03-07 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I really think this idea that duplication of things in contrib is bad,
is bad (or just a red herring).
For ports of big applications (python, say), the amount of work involved
is going to self-limit the number of ports right up front. And the ones
that do make it will self-select based on the quality of the port.
As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of
code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a
broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and
concepts.
--lyndon
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* Re: [9fans] ports duplication
2010-03-07 19:49 [9fans] ports duplication Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
@ 2010-03-07 20:02 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-03-08 4:26 ` lucio
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From: Eric Van Hensbergen @ 2010-03-07 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Augment the contrib tools (or a fork or facsimile thereof) to including user-defined rankings and reviews. Forks and duplication sometimes make sense, sometimes they don't -- but the better versions will percolate to the top.
Its a community driven thing, we need the right tools to enable that.
-eric
On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote:
> I really think this idea that duplication of things in contrib is bad,
> is bad (or just a red herring).
>
> For ports of big applications (python, say), the amount of work involved
> is going to self-limit the number of ports right up front. And the ones
> that do make it will self-select based on the quality of the port.
>
> As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of
> code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a
> broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and
> concepts.
>
> --lyndon
>
>
>
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* Re: [9fans] ports duplication
2010-03-07 19:49 [9fans] ports duplication Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-07 20:02 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
@ 2010-03-08 4:26 ` lucio
2010-03-08 12:17 ` Iruata Souza
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From: lucio @ 2010-03-08 4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of
> code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a
> broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and
> concepts.
I really don't think that's going to be the problem here, we do not
have an excess of ports, we have a problem determining whether a port
exists or, and that is where I started thinking about this, we
discover by accident that something that could have made Plan 9 more
attractive all along has been around a long time already. That can be
fixed and so it should.
It also helps a lot if one can establish a level of confidence in a
port, and having many redundant efforts is the same as encouraging
Open Source re-invention, which has both pros and cons, although my
minimalist heart suggests that the pros are greatly overshadowed by
the cons.
++L
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* Re: [9fans] ports duplication
2010-03-08 4:26 ` lucio
@ 2010-03-08 12:17 ` Iruata Souza
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From: Iruata Souza @ 2010-03-08 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lucio, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:26 AM, <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote:
>> As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of
>> code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a
>> broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and
>> concepts.
>
> I really don't think that's going to be the problem here, we do not
> have an excess of ports, we have a problem determining whether a port
> exists or,
i don't think we have that problem if the port in in sources. you may
have it because you don't seem to use fgb/contrib or any other tool
for that.
> It also helps a lot if one can establish a level of confidence in a
> port,
what would that level be?
iru
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