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From: Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] sources access from brazil
Date: Mon,  3 Sep 2007 05:04:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d375e920709022004m692b190aob690e1ef9e8a1611@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56a297000709021934x361240c7ra989ea641332b4b2@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at almost every level:

1) why would whois info matter to determine where a client is? There
are databases of ip country locations which would make much more
sense, depending on notoriously unreliable whois servers is silly both
from a security point of view and from a reliability point of view.

2) are you saying that http://groups.google.com/group/plan9changes,
kernel.org or lkml are illegal? (or prety much any site that hosts
linux ISOs)

3) this is hardly surprising given how totally unenforceable any such
laws might be, anyone can import /net from tip9ug, or use a random
http proxy and make the whole thing pointless (other than keeping out
people like iru).

I might be stupid, but this still makes no sense to me, and I would
like to know why nobody else seems to have any such problems.

Best wishes

uriel

P.S.: Note the following notice in kernel.org:

Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this
site is subject to the following legal notice:

    This site includes publicly available encryption source code
which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of
publicly available source code, may be exported from the United States
under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section 740.13(e).

This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. Please see
the Bureau of Industry and Security for more information about current
U.S. regulations.



On 9/3/07, Noah Evans <noah.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uriel,
>
> As long as Plan 9 is hosted in the US and contains certain software
> it's illegal to export to certain countries(IIRC North Korea, Iran
> etc...). To stay on the right side of American law Geoff and gang have
> to do it that way.
>
> Noah
>
> On 9/3/07, Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is probably a silly question, but why should anyone be denied
> > access on the basis of whatever a whois server who knows where might
> > or might not do?
> >
> > Best wishes and thanks for fixing the issues iru was having.
> >
> > uriel
> >
> > On 9/2/07, geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> > > If you think you're being denied access incorrectly, please include
> > > your IP address(es) in your mail to us.  The mostly likely cause is
> > > that we can't reach a whois server.
> > >
> > >
> >
>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-03  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-01 17:09 Iruata Souza
2007-09-01 21:41 ` geoff
2007-09-02  1:07   ` Iruata Souza
2007-09-02 11:47     ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-09-02 16:45       ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-09-02 19:28       ` geoff
2007-09-03  2:26         ` Uriel
2007-09-03  2:34           ` Noah Evans
2007-09-03  3:04             ` Uriel [this message]
2007-09-03 13:12               ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 17:44                 ` balaji
2007-09-03 19:44                   ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 19:55                     ` balaji
2007-09-03 11:19             ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-03 12:41               ` Iruata Souza
2007-09-03 13:48                 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-12-02 23:15 ` [9fans] " Iruata Souza

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