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From: Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Glendix?
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:18:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d375e920711130418r6cf0aef4n928cc5b811e1a7d9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473980C6.4040009@kix.in>

On Nov 13, 2007 11:47 AM, Anant Narayanan <anant@kix.in> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > so you might get more hardware support, but you'd lose all the userspace
> > code, so would it really end up that much more capable?
>
> I don't understand what "lose all the userspace code" means. The
> objective of the exercise is to enable Plan 9's userspace to work
> unmodified on Linux.

I still think being able to run lunix programs in the same environment
would be quite useful (and not too hard, you could use namespaces
to build a more 'lunix friendly' environment inside glendix).
Otherwise it would not be too different from running native plan9
inside a VM as Gorka pointed out. (And that is is IMHO what makes THNX
not particularly useful, that it adds very little over just running
Plan 9 on qemu, or vmware, or whatever.

> It boils down to Linux's drivers/schedulers/et.al. but Plan 9's
> programming environment. You'd still use /net to do network programming,
> use libdraw and not X, so to the programmer the fact that the
> distribution is running the Linux kernel is not known.
>
> Performance-wise, I see how it would be a bad idea; since read/write to
> /net will ultimately result in a socket-like call, so there would be a
> overhead.

If that is an issue you could eventually swap inferno for an in-kernel
/net server (using the new 9p server bits of v9fs).

The beauty of the approach is that it works nicely in steps, and if
you want to do that change later on you wont need to change anything
else.

uriel


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-13 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13  9:28 Anant Narayanan
2007-11-13 10:05 ` Gorka Guardiola
2007-11-13 10:14   ` Uriel
2007-11-13 10:33     ` Gorka Guardiola
2007-11-13 14:25       ` David Leimbach
2007-11-14  0:51         ` Alexander Sychev
2007-11-13 21:37   ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-11-13 10:17 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-13 10:39 ` roger peppe
2007-11-13 10:47   ` Anant Narayanan
2007-11-13 12:18     ` Uriel [this message]
2007-11-13 13:00     ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 13:31       ` Uriel
2007-11-13 13:47         ` roger peppe
2007-11-13 14:10           ` sqweek
2007-11-13 13:54         ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-13 15:20           ` Anant Narayanan
2007-11-13 18:23             ` Bakul Shah
2007-11-13 14:26         ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 16:49           ` Uriel
2007-11-13 17:19             ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 17:24               ` Iruata Souza
2007-11-13 22:01               ` David Leimbach
2007-11-13 15:16         ` Anant Narayanan
2007-11-13 14:29       ` Anant Narayanan
2007-11-13 17:21         ` erik quanstrom
2007-11-13 21:41         ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-11-13 13:30 ` John Stalker
2007-11-13 15:35   ` Harri Haataja
2007-11-13 16:22     ` John Stalker
2007-11-13 16:43       ` Aki Nyrhinen
2007-11-13 16:39   ` Uriel
2007-11-13 16:46     ` Iruata Souza
2007-11-13 18:02       ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-13 18:12         ` Iruata Souza
2007-11-13 22:04         ` David Leimbach
2007-11-13 22:16           ` David Leimbach
2007-11-13 23:19           ` Iruata Souza
2007-11-14  2:23             ` R
2007-11-14 11:44               ` Iruata Souza
2007-11-14 12:17                 ` R
2007-11-14 12:40                   ` Christian Kellermann
2007-11-14 13:01                     ` R
2007-11-14 13:08                       ` Christian Kellermann
2007-11-13 17:48     ` John Stalker
2007-11-13 16:26 ` Russ Cox
2007-11-13 16:42   ` Charles Forsyth
2007-11-13 17:44     ` Latchesar Ionkov
2007-11-14  5:44       ` ron minnich
2007-11-16  8:42 ` [9fans] Nine4Linux [WAS: Glendix?] Enrico Weigelt
2007-11-16 10:20   ` erik quanstrom
     [not found]   ` <1b69251dfdcb6b8022ff78767f07ce86@quanstro.net>
2007-11-22 18:01     ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-11-22 22:00       ` Paweł Lasek

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