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From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] permission bit of /mail/box
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:22:25 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75e7381881d834cde7f12f6cbf3dca98@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f4afda7d3b5d4a89b9d83d59ba6a57e@plan9.bell-labs.com>

> It is not at clear to me that an "no archive" bit is such
> a good idea.  My main objection is that it is implicit -- if
> I set the bit for /usr/rsc, it's hard to see quickly that
> /usr/rsc/lib/profile is not archived.

Really?
I thought it must be done easily.  Of course, I have no good
knowledge of it.  Is it really difficult?   All the default setting
is going to archive, and only some directories, (or it should be
confined to files only, I'm not sure yet), will be set by the user
to no archive.   Of if a directory is set so, underlying directories
must be so.   If it's not easy to many user, s/he will not use it.
It's not important.   The point is there is such an oppotunity
to trained user.  It's freedom to use that operating system related,
I believe.

> Then again, we already
> have this property with walk -- if I chmod 700 /usr/rsc then
> even if /usr/rsc/lib/profile is mode 666, no one else can edit it.
> Further, if you wondered why "cat `{yesterday lib/profile}" wasn't
> working, it would tell you:
>
> 	glenda% cat `{yesterday /usr/r/lib/profile}
> 	cat: can't open /n/dump/2003/0921/usr/r/lib/profile:
> 		'/n/dump/2003/0921/usr/r' does not exist
> 	glenda%
>
> or at least it should -- the error-generating code appears
> not to be working properly.  It actually says:
>
> 	glenda% cat `{yesterday /usr/r/lib/profile}
> 	cat: can't open /n/dump/2003/0921/usr/r/lib/profile:
> 		'/n/dump/2003/0921/usr/r/lib/profile' does not exist
> 	glenda%
>
> which is wrong.

Both are not wrong.
User must know what s/he did on his/her home directory.

Is it really difficult, once again?

Kenji



  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-22  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22  0:06 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-22  0:35 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  0:43   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-22  1:40   ` ron minnich
2003-09-22  1:58     ` okamoto
2003-09-22  4:18       ` Rob Pike
2003-09-22  4:49         ` okamoto
2003-09-22  5:25           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22  5:56             ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-22  6:10               ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22  6:22                 ` okamoto [this message]
2003-09-22  6:51                   ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22  7:12                     ` okamoto
2003-09-22  7:22                       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-09-22  7:34                         ` okamoto
2003-09-22  7:38                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-09-22  7:54                             ` okamoto
2003-09-22 14:30                         ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-22 16:56                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-09-23  4:18                             ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-23 10:11                               ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 12:50                                 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-23 13:35                                   ` mirtchov
2003-09-23 13:05                                     ` Sam
2003-09-23 17:00                                       ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23 13:29                                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-23 13:55                                       ` splite
2003-09-23 14:40                                     ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 15:22                                       ` Russ Cox
2003-09-23 16:23                                         ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 16:28                                           ` Russ Cox
2003-09-23 17:26                                             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23 19:17                                               ` mirtchov
2003-09-23 23:06                                                 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-24 10:10                                                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-24 15:14                                                     ` matt
2003-09-23 17:32                                           ` matt
2003-09-24  0:33                                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-23 17:38                                         ` C H Forsyth
2003-09-23  4:20                             ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-23 13:23                               ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22 14:27                       ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-22 14:41                         ` ron minnich
2003-09-22 14:41                           ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-23  2:25                           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22 14:15                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  6:26                 ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:42       ` David Presotto
2003-09-24  3:41         ` okamoto
2003-09-24  4:32           ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-09-24 11:58           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22  2:22   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-22  4:28     ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:17     ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  1:34 ` okamoto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-24  0:32 matt
2003-09-24  0:27 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-24  2:57   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-24 11:06   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-24  0:11 matt
2003-09-23 13:50 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-22  7:49 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-22  7:55 ` okamoto
2003-09-22  6:30 Laura Creighton
2003-09-22  8:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22  5:00 Dennis Ritchie
2003-09-22  5:19 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-09-22 10:26 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-09-22 15:30 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23  8:46 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-21 15:16 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-21 15:52 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-21 22:00 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-20 10:18 Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-20 14:04 ` David Presotto
2003-09-20 17:21   ` Dan Cross
2003-09-20 14:47 ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 15:00   ` Russ Cox
2003-09-20 15:40     ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 16:20       ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 16:23         ` Russ Cox
2003-09-21 12:32           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-21 13:29             ` David Presotto
2003-09-21 15:55               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-21 21:50               ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  1:40                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  2:06                   ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  2:12                   ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:35                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-23  4:39                       ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-20 15:40     ` mirtchov

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