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From: Fco.J.Ballesteros <nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] permission bit of /mail/box
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:22:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ab9f5fd9ed2f70293e8d8f61c1a2167@plan9.escet.urjc.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <018171da47f1d62ed7e0278bf14eb90c@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>

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The problem is how do you know what's junk and what's not without
requiring human intervention. For example, it's nice to have
a different not archived fs because users know that all in the
main one gets archived; thus there's no opportunity for them to
forget to set the noarchive bit. I thought of adding the noarchive
bit, to unify our main (archived) and once (not archived) file systems;
but after thinking twice, I thought users would forget to set the bit
on tars downloaded and the like.

Regarding abusing the dump, i.e. student homes, right now their
homes here are in a not archived file system. Next semester I'm
going to experiment with putting them in a fossil with snap but
without archiving.

BTW, we're receiving *a*lot* of fake upgrade/patch/download mails
pretending to be from MS; i.e. 50M just for me just the last
weekend. I resorted to /mail/lib/patters because the spam filter
does not seem to be enough by now to stop it. Is the same happening
to you?

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From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] permission bit of /mail/box
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:12:59 +0900
Message-ID: <018171da47f1d62ed7e0278bf14eb90c@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>

> I think the noarchive bit would be trivial to implement -- the
> necessary code already exists in order to avoid archiving /n/snap.
> I'm just not sure it's a good idea.

I expected this answer.

I think it depends on how we consider what is junk.   I believe there
are many junks in the real world, and we should be able to judge which is
junk or not by ourselves when it is concerned ourselves at least.

I'm receiving thousands of junk mails describing MS Custermer etc.
I think those are definetly junks and never to go archive.   Some students
may gather some kinds of pictures in his home directory.   Those must
not be archived!

Kenji

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-22  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22  0:06 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-22  0:35 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  0:43   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-22  1:40   ` ron minnich
2003-09-22  1:58     ` okamoto
2003-09-22  4:18       ` Rob Pike
2003-09-22  4:49         ` okamoto
2003-09-22  5:25           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22  5:56             ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-22  6:10               ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22  6:22                 ` okamoto
2003-09-22  6:51                   ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22  7:12                     ` okamoto
2003-09-22  7:22                       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros [this message]
2003-09-22  7:34                         ` okamoto
2003-09-22  7:38                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-09-22  7:54                             ` okamoto
2003-09-22 14:30                         ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-22 16:56                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-09-23  4:18                             ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-23 10:11                               ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 12:50                                 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-23 13:35                                   ` mirtchov
2003-09-23 13:05                                     ` Sam
2003-09-23 17:00                                       ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23 13:29                                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-23 13:55                                       ` splite
2003-09-23 14:40                                     ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 15:22                                       ` Russ Cox
2003-09-23 16:23                                         ` ron minnich
2003-09-23 16:28                                           ` Russ Cox
2003-09-23 17:26                                             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23 19:17                                               ` mirtchov
2003-09-23 23:06                                                 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-24 10:10                                                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-24 15:14                                                     ` matt
2003-09-23 17:32                                           ` matt
2003-09-24  0:33                                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-23 17:38                                         ` C H Forsyth
2003-09-23  4:20                             ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-23 13:23                               ` Russ Cox
2003-09-22 14:27                       ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-22 14:41                         ` ron minnich
2003-09-22 14:41                           ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-23  2:25                           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22 14:15                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  6:26                 ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:42       ` David Presotto
2003-09-24  3:41         ` okamoto
2003-09-24  4:32           ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-09-24 11:58           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22  2:22   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-22  4:28     ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:17     ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  1:34 ` okamoto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-24  0:32 matt
2003-09-24  0:27 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-24  2:57   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-24 11:06   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-24  0:11 matt
2003-09-23 13:50 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-22  7:49 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-22  7:55 ` okamoto
2003-09-22  6:30 Laura Creighton
2003-09-22  8:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-22  5:00 Dennis Ritchie
2003-09-22  5:19 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-09-22 10:26 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-09-22 15:30 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-23  8:46 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-21 15:16 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-21 15:52 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-21 22:00 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-20 10:18 Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-20 14:04 ` David Presotto
2003-09-20 17:21   ` Dan Cross
2003-09-20 14:47 ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 15:00   ` Russ Cox
2003-09-20 15:40     ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 16:20       ` mirtchov
2003-09-20 16:23         ` Russ Cox
2003-09-21 12:32           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-21 13:29             ` David Presotto
2003-09-21 15:55               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-21 21:50               ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  1:40                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-22  2:06                   ` Dan Cross
2003-09-22  2:12                   ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-22 14:35                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-23  4:39                       ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-09-20 15:40     ` mirtchov

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