* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
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@ 2004-05-13 9:22 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-05-13 13:57 ` ron minnich
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From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2004-05-13 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
By the way, how many people are using this iTuner ITX
box for Plan 9, and what is the longest life time of its
CF filesystem?
I'm very bothered with noisy sound of Pen4 terminals.
Fans, fans, fans...
Kenji
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* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
2004-05-13 9:22 ` [9fans] ituner minibox Kenji Okamoto
@ 2004-05-13 13:57 ` ron minnich
2004-05-14 1:05 ` Kenji Okamoto
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From: ron minnich @ 2004-05-13 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:
> By the way, how many people are using this iTuner ITX
> box for Plan 9, and what is the longest life time of its
> CF filesystem?
I am using the m100,which is the itx box I think you mean.
I have from time to time had a stack of these things in my office, with a
T21 auth/fs/terminal front end. They boot quite fast with either linuxbios
or pxeboot.
The only issue is they're slow for computing. The celeron-based 9grid
nodes at bell labs, same clock rate (533 mhz), are about 4x faster for
compute.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
2004-05-13 13:57 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-05-14 1:05 ` Kenji Okamoto
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From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2004-05-14 1:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> The only issue is they're slow for computing. The celeron-based 9grid
> nodes at bell labs, same clock rate (533 mhz), are about 4x faster for
> compute.
Thanks ron.
so we have to live with loud noise of Pen4 for a while....sad enough.
Kenji
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* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
2004-05-10 5:01 ` lucio
@ 2004-05-10 8:57 ` dvd
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From: dvd @ 2004-05-10 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
>> 1) kfs is unusable -- it is too slow to put it on a CF; fossil works fine.
>
> Will you please explain? It is not clear whether CF is used as the
> KFS storage or merely to hold kfs itself.
>
1. The guaranteed lifetime is 300,000 write cycles. Unless you put swap
on CF, it is unlikely to expire soon even with development being conducted
on it.
2. kfs is too slow (disk operations are unbuffered) to be used with CF. Installation
itself takes forever.
3. fossil is fine, I have a 400 Mb partition on a 512 Mb Toshiba (Kingston-labeled)
CF; the speed is acceptable.
> I ask because CF has a limited write lifetime, being intended more as
> read-only storage (a few thousand write cycles?). I'm not sure all
> reader of this list are aware of this, so I thought I'd mention it.
Time will show; unless i'm wrong with my calculations, I have a few years
of use it as my main filesystem. Time will show.
David
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* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
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2004-05-09 5:04 ` ron minnich
@ 2004-05-10 5:01 ` lucio
2004-05-10 8:57 ` dvd
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From: lucio @ 2004-05-10 5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> 1) kfs is unusable -- it is too slow to put it on a CF; fossil works fine.
Will you please explain? It is not clear whether CF is used as the
KFS storage or merely to hold kfs itself.
I ask because CF has a limited write lifetime, being intended more as
read-only storage (a few thousand write cycles?). I'm not sure all
reader of this list are aware of this, so I thought I'd mention it.
++L
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* Re: [9fans] ituner minibox
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@ 2004-05-09 5:04 ` ron minnich
2004-05-10 5:01 ` lucio
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From: ron minnich @ 2004-05-09 5:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sun, 9 May 2004, David Tolpin wrote:
> 3) it hangs occasionally, I don't know why yet -- something to do with
> the ethernet adapter, I think.
interesting, we have not seen that problem under linuxbios. We've seen
lotsa problem, just not that one :-)
ron
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