Re: [9fans] Brdline

[Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>]

I think - just do it.  The ozinferno "standard" is defined by the
implementation - plus whatever documentation that i get time
to write.  This does not solve larger issues (like standards
for cell phones) but it works for me.  I didn't go to a meeting
to add function pointers, i just did it.

brucee

On 1/19/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 1/18/06, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > how about someone (or two) experts write the standard?
> > worked for K&R.
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>
> What's worse is standards with no reference implementation. Both C an C99
> seem to have suffered from this disease.
>
> C++ hasn't been implemented as 1998's spec has erm... specified to my
> knowledge without any bugs.  [EDG comes closest and Intel and other compiler
> vendors are just using their front end, and paying for it as a result].
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> C99 has implementation issues like tgmath.h that are actually impossible to
> implement in just C99.  You absolutely will need compiler extensions to
> implement that header properly.
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> Perhaps the best way to specify a standard is to define it in a reference
> implementation then talk about it.  Not specify on paper and dream about how
> it should work then find out how far off you were when you start trying to
> prototype it.
>
> Dave
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> > brucee
> >
> > On 1/19/06, Wes Kussmaul < wes@village.com> wrote:
> > > Paul Lalonde wrote:
> > >
> > > > Standards are for when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. By
> > > > their very nature they have to compromise.
> > > > Give me the work of a standards committee before the the work of a
> > > > single idiot; but most of all give me the work of a brilliant expert
> > > > before that of the committee. And for God's sake, please don't turn my
> > > > expert into an idiot by throwing him onto a committee!
> > >
> > > How about all standards committees advising one individual, the
> > > standards czar, your brilliant expert, with a background in law and
> > > social science as well as technology, who is able to apply duly
> > > constituted public authority to a standard. He/she cannot have any
> > > alliances with anyone but the ITU.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Wes Kussmaul
> > > CIO
> > > The Village Group
> > > 738 Main Street
> > > Waltham, MA 02451
> > >
> > > 781-647-7178
> > >
> > >
> > > My uncle likes to say that the world's biggest troubles started when the
> serpent said, "Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people
> collectively calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it's the
> same as if a person named Arthur Andersen signed it." I don't get the
> serpent and fruit part. Must be some Swiss mythology thing. He can be a bit
> obscure.
> > >
> > >                         P.K. Iggy
> > >                         _How I Like Fixed The Internet_
> > >                           (Tales from the Great Infodepression of 2009
> > >                           and the prosperity that followed)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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