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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 2009 12:24:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7980ce1ef1a3d761e56c7ef111341699@coraid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200910051708.aa33544@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>

> I've learned to avoid
> globbing as much as possible.  In any shell with command
> substitution globbing is unnecessary, and is often dangerous.
> I would happily use a shell with NO globbing, just to avoid
> another source of worries.

i think this is all a bit dramatic.

there are very simple idioms one can
use in the few cases globbing may be
a problem.  others have suggested ./<pattern>
and i'd add that one can also use
	if(! ~ <pattern> '<pattern>')
		something;
but this is seldom necessary.  one
might consider having the file server
ban globbing characters in file names.

if i could roll back time, i would push
for regular expressions instead of the
goofy shell matching.  then knuth could
have to say that unix is 29 definitions of
regular expressions living under one roof.
:-)

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-05 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-03 16:03 Sam Watkins
2009-10-03 17:01 ` Rob Pike
2009-10-03 18:31   ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-03 18:56     ` Rob Pike
2009-10-03 19:05       ` blstuart
2009-10-03 19:18         ` hiro
2009-10-03 20:31     ` Steve Simon
2009-10-05 16:08     ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 16:24       ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-10-05 17:20         ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 19:09           ` roger peppe
2009-10-03 18:46 ` Bakul Shah
2009-10-03 19:11   ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-04  4:12     ` lucio
2009-10-04  7:17       ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-04  9:18         ` lucio
2009-10-05  6:20           ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05  6:53             ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-10-04 10:46         ` Richard Miller
2009-10-06  6:59           ` Uriel
2009-10-06 12:01             ` Jacob Todd
2009-10-06 16:35               ` [9fans] *Suspect* " W B Hacker
2009-10-04 10:59         ` [9fans] " sqweek
2009-10-05  5:54           ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05 11:23           ` matt
2009-10-04 10:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-10-04 10:26   ` lucio
     [not found] <<646955677faa922172207300b93ff6ea@hamnavoe.com>
2009-10-04 18:39 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<20091005055423.GA14691@nipl.net>
2009-10-05 13:30 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 16:13   ` Russ Cox
2009-10-05 19:24     ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05 19:31       ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 21:04       ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 22:13         ` Jason Catena
2009-10-06 10:10           ` lucio
2009-10-06  2:22         ` ron minnich
2009-10-06  4:37           ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-06  4:50             ` ron minnich
2009-10-06  6:40           ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 17:45             ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-10-06 18:00               ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 18:27                 ` ron minnich
2009-10-07  8:30                   ` John Stalker
2009-10-07 11:05                     ` roger peppe
2009-10-06  8:40           ` matt
2009-10-06 16:50             ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 17:15               ` Jason Catena
2009-10-06 17:50             ` Tim Newsham
2009-10-06 19:27               ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 20:10                 ` Jason Catena
2009-10-05 21:35       ` Russ Cox
     [not found] <<200910060740.aa94573@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-06 12:59 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<200910070930.aa64725@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-07 12:14 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-07 13:14   ` John Stalker
     [not found] <<200910071414.aa02318@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-07 13:36 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-07 14:02   ` W B Hacker

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