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From: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Installing the updates
Date: Tue,  1 Aug 2000 14:31:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8m6dhf$74d$1@inputplus.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3985E318.10B7E8F8@arl.army.mil>

Hi,

> rob pike wrote:
> > Seriously, we deliberately refused to buy into that multiple
> > inclusion dance, which is a hideous non-solution for the problem of
> > undefined dependency order on #includes.  Why not use the occasion
> > to clean up the code so you only include <stdio.h> once?
> 
> ...
> 
> Many developers take the approach that each interface header should
> be self-contained, so that the user of the header doesn't need to
> know anything about the details of the implementation of that header.
> Information hiding, you know.

I think he's heard the argument but doesn't agree.

    "Simple rule: include files should never include include files."
        -- http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/pikestyle.html

It's well worth a read if you haven't already.

(The document is a sane view in a profession contorted by ridculous
company coding standards that forbid short variable names and insist on
`add 1 to the object's reference counter' comments.  Normally also the
place where code reviews are a farce where everyone tries to detect a
couple of spelling errors, even the same spelling errors as everyone
else, so they can show they studied the code.)


Ralph.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-08-01 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-07-31 15:15 rob pike
2000-08-01  8:53 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-01 12:12   ` Howard Trickey
2000-08-02  9:11     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-01 14:31   ` Ralph Corderoy [this message]
2000-08-01 16:03     ` Greg Hudson
2000-08-01 16:32       ` James A. Robinson
2000-08-01 17:05         ` James A. Robinson
2000-08-02  9:39       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-02  9:11     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-03 14:51     ` ozan s. yigit
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-08-02  9:47 forsyth
2000-08-02  9:52 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-08-01 17:06 Russ Cox
2000-08-02  8:32 ` Bruce G. Stewart
2000-08-01 16:27 rob pike
2000-08-02 10:53 ` Ralph Corderoy
2000-08-01 16:26 rob pike
2000-08-02 21:49 ` Steve Simon
2000-08-01 13:35 rob pike
2000-08-01 18:34 ` Greg Hudson
2000-08-02  9:53 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-01 13:06 rob pike
2000-08-01 13:10 ` Lucio De Re
2000-08-01 12:55 rob pike
2000-08-02  9:39 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-08-01  6:04 Russ Cox
2000-08-01  5:42 Russ Cox
2000-07-31 17:09 Russ Cox
2000-07-31 15:57 jmk
     [not found] <djhender@telusplanet.net>
2000-07-31 14:53 ` Doug Henderson
2000-07-31 17:38   ` Scott Schwartz
2000-07-31 20:10     ` Steve Simon

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