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From: "rob pike, esq." <rob@mightycheese.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] So What is P9 good for.....
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:26:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9aadcf5c61587fd7117a6e61b73f2ca7@mightycheese.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14461cb50de52a55cf67cd23d550b629@plan9.bell-labs.com>

> Why do YOU use Plan 9 and not Linux/FreeBSD?

Despite all the cool features I like to show off when I give a demo,
the thing that most consistently drops jaws is the speed of
compilation.  Two seconds elapsed time to build the window system, for
example.  If you write software for a living, that sort of speed can
be a huge advantage.  But where does the speed come from?  Mostly from
the way the software is written, from the approach the system takes.
It's not something you can easily copy or port to another environment.
I can (and often do) run many compilations working on some Plan 9
software during the dead time waiting for a Linux program to build.  I
remember comparing VNC for someone recently.  It took many minutes to
build the Linux vnc package from the web.  I got bored waiting,
mentioned it to a colleague, he said so what?  I went to the Plan 9
vnc directory, built the client and server in a few seconds, had a
nice conversation on this point, and went back to waiting for the
Linux vnc to build.  And that example we're talking about two
versions *of the same application*.

And in that case, Plan 9 was at a huge disadvantage because it was
running on the same Linux machine under vmware.

Modern machines have two and three gigahertz processors. They
should be able to build software hundreds of times faster than a
decade ago.  Why don't they?  Ah, but with Plan 9, they do.

-rob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-13 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-13  9:37 Jeffrey Haun
2003-02-13 10:04 ` Stephen Wynne
2003-02-13 17:52   ` maynard
2003-02-13 18:12     ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-13 20:00       ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-13 10:11 ` Phil White
2003-02-13 10:22 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-13 10:33 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-13 13:54 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-13 14:00   ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-13 16:26   ` rob pike, esq. [this message]
2003-02-13 16:31     ` northern snowfall
2003-02-13 23:28     ` Jim Choate
2003-02-14 19:50       ` mike
2003-02-14 20:05         ` Doc Shipley
2003-02-14 19:51       ` Dan Cross
2003-02-13 14:00 ` northern snowfall
2003-02-13 18:02 ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-13 14:20 peter a. cejchan
2003-02-13 15:21 John Stalker
2003-02-13 15:38 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-13 15:43   ` Boyd Roberts
2003-02-13 15:53     ` Phil White
2003-02-13 23:25       ` Jim Choate
2003-02-14 19:45         ` Dan Cross
2003-02-14 21:04           ` Phil White
2003-02-13 16:51   ` matt
2003-02-14  9:31   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-14 15:11     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-17  9:53       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-17 11:32         ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-17 12:06           ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-17 13:36             ` Russ Cox
2003-02-17 13:41               ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-17 21:37           ` Andrew
2003-02-17 22:03             ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-17 22:07               ` Russ Cox
2003-02-17 22:07               ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-17 22:59                 ` northern snowfall
2003-02-17 23:10                 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-17 23:23                   ` George Michaelson
2003-02-18  0:53                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-18  0:51                       ` Mike Haertel
2003-02-18  9:33                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-18 17:30                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-18 17:25                           ` nigel
2003-02-18  4:13                     ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-18  9:10                       ` M Heath
2003-02-20  2:52                     ` Martin C.Atkins
2003-02-17 23:35                   ` matt
2003-02-17 23:45                     ` George Michaelson
2003-02-18  1:53                 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-17 23:32             ` Dan Cross
2003-02-14  2:06 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-14  9:31   ` Richard Miller
2003-02-14  9:34     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-14 15:12       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-14 13:40     ` David Presotto
2003-02-14 16:44       ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-14 16:47         ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-15  3:27       ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-15  6:29         ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-15  9:39         ` Digby Tarvin
2003-02-17  9:53       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-17  9:53     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-14 21:55 Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-14 21:58 ` Doc Shipley
2003-02-15  0:20 ` Dan Cross
2003-02-15  6:47 Andrew Simmons
2003-02-18  1:34 okamoto
2003-02-18  3:06 okamoto
2003-02-18 15:34 Tom Glinos
2003-02-18 15:39 ` Ronald G. Minnich

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