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From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:25:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2JRCCddXVDg7TsfWaszHOApD3=0-Pqw=uPaeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9235d3fce85ed5cfde0d027fc453f734@coraid.com>

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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM, erik quanstrom
<quanstro@labs.coraid.com>wrote:

> On Fri Oct 29 13:15:45 EDT 2010, forsyth@terzarima.net wrote:
> > > Let's try to define 'decent' for this thread -- a decent fileserver is
> one
> > > on which close()s do not have any client-visible or semantic effect
> other
> > > than to invalidate the Fid that was passed to them. Lets see how many
> file
> > > servers we can think of that are 'decent': fossil, kfs, ken, memfs, ...
> >
> > unfortunately, fossil and kfs both can have important visible state
> changes on a clunk,
> > so that lets them out.
>
> i think we're reducing this down to "it's easy to cache the hell
> out of immutable files".
>

Well that's like memoization of a pure function.  The answer is "yes",
because if the output of a function doesn't change when the same input is
applied, the function is just a table lookup anyway.  Same should hold true
for immutable files and the operations available on them not being able to
change the state.

When dependent state doesn't change, concurrency is easier to get right.

Dave


>
> - erik
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-29 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-27  3:02 Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-27  4:23 ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-27  6:27   ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-27 13:50     ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-27 13:53       ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-27 13:55         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-10-27 14:12         ` John Floren
2010-10-27 14:13       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-27 14:48         ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-27 15:45           ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-27 15:54             ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-27 21:04               ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-28 12:12               ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-28 13:32                 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-28 14:30                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-28 14:39                   ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-28 14:58                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-28 14:41                   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-10-28 14:45                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-28 14:56                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-10-28 15:37                         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2010-10-28 15:40                           ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-28 15:53                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-10-28 19:17                             ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-28 19:24                 ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-28 20:18                   ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-28 20:32                     ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-28 20:55                       ` Nemo
2010-10-28 21:22                         ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-28 22:17                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-10-28 23:51                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-29  5:37                       ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29  7:44                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-29  8:51                           ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29  9:01                       ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29  8:58                         ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 16:38                           ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29  9:45                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-29  9:56                           ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 16:01                           ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 15:58                             ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-29 16:02                             ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 16:17                               ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 16:47                                 ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 16:04                           ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 14:14                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-29 15:21                           ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 15:36                             ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-29 15:39                             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-29 15:49                             ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 15:50                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-29 15:59                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 16:28                                   ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-29 17:16                                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-29 16:47                               ` David Leimbach
2010-10-29 17:13                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 17:22                                   ` David Leimbach
2010-10-29 17:26                                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-29 17:47                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 19:33                                         ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 20:27                                           ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 20:41                                             ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-29 20:44                                               ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 22:31                                                 ` Bakul Shah
2010-10-29 22:39                                                 ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 22:43                                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-29 23:07                                                     ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 23:28                                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-30  9:08                                                         ` Nemo
2010-10-31  5:39                                                           ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-31  8:52                                                             ` roger peppe
2010-10-31  8:57                                                               ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-31 10:25                                                                 ` fgergo
2010-10-31 11:11                                                                   ` fgergo
2010-10-31 11:21                                                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-31 11:23                                                                 ` roger peppe
2010-10-31 13:06                                                                   ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-31 13:07                                                                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-31 13:22                                                                       ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-11-02 14:29                                                                     ` Richard Miller
2010-10-31 14:21                                                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-31 22:17                                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-10-31 22:32                                                                   ` EBo
2010-10-31 22:41                                                                   ` Steve Simon
2010-11-02 13:49                                                                   ` Richard Miller
2010-11-02 14:02                                                                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-29 18:27                                       ` David Leimbach
2010-10-29 17:18                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 17:17                                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-29 17:25                                     ` David Leimbach [this message]
2010-10-29 18:03                                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-10-29 18:54                                   ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-10-29 19:30                                     ` David Leimbach
2010-10-29 20:20                                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-10-29 15:55                         ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2010-10-29 13:12                     ` roger peppe
2010-10-29 13:20                       ` Lucio De Re
2010-10-29 15:51                       ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-29 16:36                       ` Charles Forsyth
2010-10-27 15:09       ` David Leimbach
2010-10-28 21:39 erik quanstrom

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