Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

["Rodrigo G. López" <rodrigosloop@gmail.com>]

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yes that's right.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 4:57 PM Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

>
> using tlssrv is an option, as is import, but what was saying it fossil’s
> native 9p server does not support tls, which it doesn't - i dont believe
> anyone has added it.
>
> the issue is 9boot would need tls to be able download the kernel from a
> file server and it doesn’t have it. this is the labs boot procedure of
> course.
>
> 9front booting uses a full kernel to bootstrap (correct me if i am wrong)
> so tls is not a problem there.
>
> anyway, fossil does not have tls and i would like to have. such a change
> would mean changes to the labs distro boot proceedure
>
> -Steve
>
>
> On 11 Jan 2020, at 10:42 am, Rodrigo G. López <rodrigosloop@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS?
>
> go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there for a while already.
>
>
> -rodri
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been
>> solid.
>>
>> what is too big - honest question.
>>
>> i thought the biggest issues are:
>>
>> performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance,
>> though this is not a problem for me.
>>
>>  lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of tls
>> these days.
>>
>> no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate
>> dump - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the
>> release to a new dir is ok.
>>
>> no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for
>> migrating in other backups.
>>
>> all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened.
>>
>> > On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> >>
>> >> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function used
>> by venti
>> >
>> > major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti right now.
>> >
>> > a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is
>> > way too big.
>>
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