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From: Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 10:36:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABwHSOsryT2Jnc_FBs_fNrv1bi9Oh23fk-ytQRpqG5YHEWS=9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5bd44a79dcfe0cf23324042620efad6@mikro>

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>wrote:

> On Sun Dec 15 10:23:13 EST 2013, blake@mcbride.name wrote:
>
> > I checked.  The following shell script does the trick:
> >
> >
> > #
> > mkdir /tmp/acme-$$
> > NAMESPACE=/tmp/acme-$$ acme "$@"
>
> this is swimming up stream.  acme's model is to run 1 copy of acme,
> and edit all files in it.  many things, such as plumbing, will work
> better with 1 copy of acme.
>

I agree completely.  I would, in general, only run one copy because that is
all that would generally be needed.  However, there are a couple
of circumstances where starting more than one copy does make sense.  I
detail those two cases in my first post in this thread.



>
> by the way, this limitation is p9p specific.  but still it's no
> fun to have the same file get plumbed to every acme.
>

As you can tell by all my posts.  All of this is new to me, and I am tring
to understand it all.  I like what I see so far, and, in fact, I have some
ideas that are germinating in my mind.  I am planning a future post about
it.

Focusing on sam & acme, I don't yet understand the plumber except in the
most vague respect.  Specifically what one can do with the plumber on p9p
is unknown to me.

On a semi-different note, I understand the great advancement Plan-9 brings
to the table with respect to making all operations part of the file system.
 On the flip side, I do not understand the benefit p9p brings to the table
with bind and friends.  It is too much of a tack-on IMO.  I deeply
appreciate native sam & acme, and would appreciate an even more native port
of same.  And, not to dispriage the true benefits of Plan-9, I would love
to see a POSIX implementation of those ideas.  (A topic of a future post.)

Thanks.

Blake



>
> - erik
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-15 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-13 17:18 Blake McBride
2013-12-13 17:31 ` User &
2013-12-15 15:22   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 16:00     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 16:33       ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 16:36       ` Blake McBride [this message]
2013-12-15 16:44         ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 17:13           ` Blake McBride
2013-12-13 17:37 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-13 17:57   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-12-16 10:15 ` dexen deVries
2013-12-14 14:54 Uvelichitel

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