[9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[David Leimbach]

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I just tried to load plan 9 on a machine that it used to run on, but now,
for some reason, can not find it's CD drive.
It's an old AMD Athlon, circa 2000 if I recall correctly, and when booting
from the plan 9 CD, it does not find the CD drive.

I thought at first I might try to figure out exactly why, but then realized
it's probably time for a new plan 9 computer.

I've got an intel iMac in another room that I want to see just how far I can
get on it before it doesn't boot :-).

But I also wanted to get a recommendation for a small inexpensive x86 PC
that could run it.

I usually like to get motherboards and parts and assembly myself, but I'd go
for even a lenovo or (god forbid) dell if the deal was good.

Any recommendations?

I'm very excited about the linuxemu, new USB support, and other work that's
gone on in the last few years, and I hope to get some serious time to do
something useful this time around.

Dave

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Re: [9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[ron minnich]

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=49#power-bundle

DESCRIPTION 	PRICE	QTY 	TOTAL
	Bundle: Intel DG45FC, Jou Jye 528i Case, 2GB RAM, 2.5in HDD Tray
	£175.00 		£175.00
	Intel E1400 Celeron Dual Core 2.0 GHz Socket 775 CPU & Heatsink for
DG45FC Board * Lead time approx 1-3 days 	£49.00 		£49.00
	OCZ Solid 30GB 2.5in SATA II Solid State Disk (SSD) 	£85.00 		£85.00
	US IEC C13 Power Cord 	£3.00 		£3.00

SSD and it all comes to 312 pounds, which is around 6,000,000 dollars
at today's rates. But that said just get the same thing at Fry's for
less. That mobo was at Fry's recently for $70 with cpu.

But SSD, and 60GB at that, bye bye hard drive failure. Now you just
have flash failure. I still think a write-once-friendly medium like
flash ought to be nice for venti. Wonder if we could keep fossil and
index in battery-back dram ?

ron

Re: [9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[erik quanstrom]

On Mon Jul 13 11:48:01 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=49#power-bundle
>
> DESCRIPTION 	PRICE	QTY 	TOTAL
> 	Bundle: Intel DG45FC, Jou Jye 528i Case, 2GB RAM, 2.5in HDD Tray
> 	£175.00 		£175.00
> 	Intel E1400 Celeron Dual Core 2.0 GHz Socket 775 CPU & Heatsink for
> DG45FC Board * Lead time approx 1-3 days 	£49.00 		£49.00
> 	OCZ Solid 30GB 2.5in SATA II Solid State Disk (SSD) 	£85.00 		£85.00
> 	US IEC C13 Power Cord 	£3.00 		£3.00
>
> SSD and it all comes to 312 pounds, which is around 6,000,000 dollars
> at today's rates. But that said just get the same thing at Fry's for
> less. That mobo was at Fry's recently for $70 with cpu.

i'm working with a atom 330, dual nic machine that is $300 without
disk.

> Wonder if we could keep fossil and
> index in battery-back dram ?

with sufficient resources, even oceans can be boiled.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[David Leimbach]

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On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:58 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>wrote:

> On Mon Jul 13 11:48:01 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
> > http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=49#power-bundle
> >
> > DESCRIPTION   PRICE   QTY     TOTAL
> >       Bundle: Intel DG45FC, Jou Jye 528i Case, 2GB RAM, 2.5in HDD Tray
> >       £175.00                 £175.00
> >       Intel E1400 Celeron Dual Core 2.0 GHz Socket 775 CPU & Heatsink for
> > DG45FC Board * Lead time approx 1-3 days      £49.00          £49.00
> >       OCZ Solid 30GB 2.5in SATA II Solid State Disk (SSD)     £85.00
>      £85.00
> >       US IEC C13 Power Cord   £3.00           £3.00
> >
> > SSD and it all comes to 312 pounds, which is around 6,000,000 dollars
> > at today's rates. But that said just get the same thing at Fry's for
> > less. That mobo was at Fry's recently for $70 with cpu.
>
> i'm working with a atom 330, dual nic machine that is $300 without
> disk.
>
> > Wonder if we could keep fossil and
> > index in battery-back dram ?
>
> with sufficient resources, even oceans can be boiled.


Isn't that what Sun^H^H^HOracle said about ZFS?


>
>
> - erik
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Time for a new, yet not bleeding edge plan 9 box... (recommendations for a small x86, inexpensive PC)

[Andreas Eriksen]

Unfortunately, the controller used in that series of SSD's
has a pretty bad reputation.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=17

That said, it's the second version of it and it is a lot
better than the first. It might also be that it is less of
a problem with Venti, I don't know enough to say.

I've used one myself and haven't run into any issues, you
might not ever notice the problem.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:46 PM, ron minnich wrote:

> http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=49#power-bundle
>
> DESCRIPTION 	PRICE	QTY 	TOTAL
> 	Bundle: Intel DG45FC, Jou Jye 528i Case, 2GB RAM, 2.5in HDD Tray
> 	£175.00 		£175.00
> 	Intel E1400 Celeron Dual Core 2.0 GHz Socket 775 CPU & Heatsink for
> DG45FC Board * Lead time approx 1-3 days 	£49.00 		£49.00
> 	OCZ Solid 30GB 2.5in SATA II Solid State Disk (SSD) 	£85.00 		£85.00
> 	US IEC C13 Power Cord 	£3.00 		£3.00
>
> SSD and it all comes to 312 pounds, which is around 6,000,000 dollars
> at today's rates. But that said just get the same thing at Fry's for
> less. That mobo was at Fry's recently for $70 with cpu.
>
> But SSD, and 60GB at that, bye bye hard drive failure. Now you just
> have flash failure. I still think a write-once-friendly medium like
> flash ought to be nice for venti. Wonder if we could keep fossil and
> index in battery-back dram ?
>
> ron
>