* [9fans] System call mania
@ 2008-03-22 3:01 Pietro Gagliardi
2008-03-22 4:16 ` Iruata Souza
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From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-03-22 3:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Hello. I was recently looking in libc when I noticed a few things
about system calls:
1) brk and sbrk are implemented atop brk_, which is not documented
2) the seek function seems to be a system call, but the alpha folder
defines a function seek which calls _seek
3) Some items in that file have underscores, like BRK_ and _READ
This leads me to the following question: what exactly are the system
calls in Plan 9?
Thanks.
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 3:01 [9fans] System call mania Pietro Gagliardi
@ 2008-03-22 4:16 ` Iruata Souza
2008-03-22 4:33 ` Pietro Gagliardi
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From: Iruata Souza @ 2008-03-22 4:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> Hello. I was recently looking in libc when I noticed a few things
> about system calls:
>
> 1) brk and sbrk are implemented atop brk_, which is not documented
> 2) the seek function seems to be a system call, but the alpha folder
> defines a function seek which calls _seek
> 3) Some items in that file have underscores, like BRK_ and _READ
>
> This leads me to the following question: what exactly are the system
> calls in Plan 9?
>
grep -i syscall /sys/src/9/port
iru
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 4:16 ` Iruata Souza
@ 2008-03-22 4:33 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-03-22 4:41 ` Iruata Souza
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From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-03-22 4:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
That confirmed one suspicion: the REAL calls are those who are simply
named in /sys/src/libc/9syscall/sys.h, and that the USER-LEVEL calls
are a big mess in libc. Thanks!
On Mar 22, 2008, at 12:16 AM, Iruata Souza wrote:
> On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>> Hello. I was recently looking in libc when I noticed a few things
>> about system calls:
>>
>> 1) brk and sbrk are implemented atop brk_, which is not documented
>> 2) the seek function seems to be a system call, but the alpha folder
>> defines a function seek which calls _seek
>> 3) Some items in that file have underscores, like BRK_ and _READ
>>
>> This leads me to the following question: what exactly are the system
>> calls in Plan 9?
>>
>
> grep -i syscall /sys/src/9/port
>
> iru
>
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 4:33 ` Pietro Gagliardi
@ 2008-03-22 4:41 ` Iruata Souza
2008-03-22 4:44 ` Pietro Gagliardi
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From: Iruata Souza @ 2008-03-22 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> That confirmed one suspicion: the REAL calls are those who are simply
> named in /sys/src/libc/9syscall/sys.h, and that the USER-LEVEL calls
> are a big mess in libc. Thanks!
>
doesn't the name system call suggests you something?
iru
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 4:41 ` Iruata Souza
@ 2008-03-22 4:44 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-03-22 5:32 ` ron minnich
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From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-03-22 4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
It suggests to me that these calls are the lowest level of
communication with the kernel. I once thought that all system calls
could be called by a program :-P
On Mar 22, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Iruata Souza wrote:
> On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>> That confirmed one suspicion: the REAL calls are those who are simply
>> named in /sys/src/libc/9syscall/sys.h, and that the USER-LEVEL calls
>> are a big mess in libc. Thanks!
>>
>
> doesn't the name system call suggests you something?
>
> iru
>
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 4:44 ` Pietro Gagliardi
@ 2008-03-22 5:32 ` ron minnich
2008-03-22 13:02 ` Pietro Gagliardi
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From: ron minnich @ 2008-03-22 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
> It suggests to me that these calls are the lowest level of
> communication with the kernel. I once thought that all system calls
> could be called by a program :-P
>
why do you think that they can't be?
ron
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* Re: [9fans] System call mania
2008-03-22 5:32 ` ron minnich
@ 2008-03-22 13:02 ` Pietro Gagliardi
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From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-03-22 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
I was tired and I used the wrong words.
On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:32 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Pietro Gagliardi
> <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
>> It suggests to me that these calls are the lowest level of
>> communication with the kernel. I once thought that all system calls
>> could be called by a program :-P
>>
>
> why do you think that they can't be?
>
> ron
>
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