Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[Jim Choate]

I'm all of a sudden getting echo's.....


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[9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros]

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Hi,

Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where
he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed:

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW


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Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[andrey mirtchovski]

A day will come, when our children (or children's children, depending on age)
will be arguing about the license covering the new toy we've just bought
them, instead of playing with it...

Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where
> he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed
>

Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[Boyd Roberts]

Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where
> he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed:
> 
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW
> 

stallman should a) take a bath, b) get a grip and c) stop writing
bullshit that he thinks is code.

-- 
    But I doubt if our present system [U.S. Army] will produce such
    an individual.  They are too: _abrasive_, opinionated, undiplomatic,
    nonconformist, and effective.
    
        -- Colonel David H. Hackworth (U.S. Army, Ret.)

Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[Alexander Viro]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Boyd Roberts wrote:

> Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where
> > he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed:
> > 
> > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW
> > 
> 
> stallman should a) take a bath, b) get a grip and c) stop writing
> bullshit that he thinks is code.

You mean he actually writes something these days? AFAICS he went 100%
PHB...

He has one point, though - part regarding the intellectual property
actions, nice as it is, is abusable. And that has nothing to GPL, indeed -
sufficiently malicious and smart asshole can use that clause to cause a
lot of grief to any contributor. Doesn't have to be very smart, actually -
AFAICS "contribution" != "contribution accepted into the official tree",
so quality of code is not an issue and recipe is out there...
s/any/& Plan 9-related/ would be one of the ways to close that hole, but
anyway, hole is actually there. (For those who didn't bother to read the
text in question, scenario basically boils down to the following:
$EVIL_ASSHOLE becomes a contributor, picks a $VICTIM_CONTRIBUTOR and
starts doing nasty things to any code written by $VICTIM_CONTRIBUTOR,
quite possibly under different license, containing trade secrets,
whatever. Oops...)

Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[Conway Yee]

After reading RMS's arguments, I come to the conclusion that if this
points are what RMS have to worry about, then Plan 9 is indeed free
software.

Conway Yee

Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman

[John Dyson]

Conway Yee wrote:
> 
> After reading RMS's arguments, I come to the conclusion that if this
> points are what RMS have to worry about, then Plan 9 is indeed free
> software.
> 
I STRONGLY suggest avoiding license debates.  Ignore the rantings,
and continue with the license that you see fit!!!

John