From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Cc: <hangar18-general@open-forge.org>
Subject: Re: [9fans] NAT'ing a drawterm connection
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:25:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0308252317460.1975-100000@einstein.ssz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <011101c36b74$70d08d00$b9844051@insultant.net>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, boyd, rounin wrote:
> > I see your point, but, customers of a service wouldn't be sympathetic
> > to that answer.
>
> oh i agree, but, for the moment, i have nothing much to protect.
>
Then you miss the point of full-time encryption. This forces mallet to
decrypt all data. If you only use encryption to protest 'important' stuff
then you shouldn't bother encrypting it. People should be using encryption
as a matter of course. One of the primary goals of H18 is to build in
encryption to all levels of P9.
One of the first things I'd like is to see DES replaced as the default
protocol. Dedicated FPGA cracker is <$50k US.
The more fundamental problem is that it's the same sort of
misunderstanding it entails regarding inter-personal relations. It's the
same as saying "Unless you have something to hide you shouldn't mind a
search". Individuals aren't property (at least not in American democracy).
This sort of view is more fascist (in the sense of private property and
public management).
As O.H. Wilson (I think he's the right bioligist) who was asked his
opinion of socialism. He said something akin to "Nice theory, wrong
species."
-- --
ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.com
www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-26 4:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-26 1:16 Skip Tavakkolian
2003-08-26 1:50 ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-26 4:25 ` Jim Choate [this message]
2003-08-26 4:17 ` Jim Choate
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-29 4:39 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-08-25 4:00 Rob Ristroph
2003-08-25 4:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 5:15 ` Rob Ristroph
2003-08-25 5:22 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 5:26 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 12:35 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-08-25 13:18 ` Russ Cox
2003-08-25 17:52 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-08-26 0:30 ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-28 3:23 ` Russ Cox
2003-08-29 4:32 ` Rob Ristroph
2003-08-29 4:50 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 14:53 ` matt
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=Pine.LNX.4.33.0308252317460.1975-100000@einstein.ssz.com \
--to=ravage@einstein.ssz.com \
--cc=9fans@cse.psu.edu \
--cc=hangar18-general@open-forge.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).