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From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Cc: <hangar18-general@open-forge.org>
Subject: Re: [9fans] NAT'ing a drawterm connection
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:25:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0308252317460.1975-100000@einstein.ssz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <011101c36b74$70d08d00$b9844051@insultant.net>


On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, boyd, rounin wrote:

> > I see your point, but, customers of a service wouldn't be sympathetic
> > to that answer.
>
> oh i agree, but, for the moment, i have nothing much to protect.
>

Then you miss the point of full-time encryption. This forces mallet to
decrypt all data. If you only use encryption to protest 'important' stuff
then you shouldn't bother encrypting it. People should be using encryption
as a matter of course. One of the primary goals of H18 is to build in
encryption to all levels of P9.

One of the first things I'd like is to see DES replaced as the default
protocol. Dedicated FPGA cracker is <$50k US.

The more fundamental problem is that it's the same sort of
misunderstanding it entails regarding inter-personal relations. It's the
same as saying "Unless you have something to hide you shouldn't mind a
search". Individuals aren't property (at least not in American democracy).
This sort of view is more fascist (in the sense of private property and
public management).

As O.H. Wilson (I think he's the right bioligist) who was asked his
opinion of socialism. He said something akin to "Nice theory, wrong
species."


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      ravage@ssz.com                            jchoate@open-forge.com
      www.ssz.com                               www.open-forge.com




  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-26  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-26  1:16 Skip Tavakkolian
2003-08-26  1:50 ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-26  4:25   ` Jim Choate [this message]
2003-08-26  4:17 ` Jim Choate
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-29  4:39 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-08-25  4:00 Rob Ristroph
2003-08-25  4:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25  5:15   ` Rob Ristroph
2003-08-25  5:22     ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25  5:26       ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 12:35         ` Bruce Ellis
2003-08-25 13:18           ` Russ Cox
2003-08-25 17:52             ` Bruce Ellis
2003-08-26  0:30               ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-28  3:23               ` Russ Cox
2003-08-29  4:32         ` Rob Ristroph
2003-08-29  4:50           ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-08-25 14:53     ` matt

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