From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" <nemo@lsub.org>
Cc: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Threads: Sewing badges of honor onto a Kernel
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:26:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402270922190.2563@ppc970.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbcf45ba64ac8a77cd6a3dc6ba63b94b@plan9.escet.urjc.es>
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Fco. J. Ballesteros wrote:
>
> > Hint: you can't message-pass a hash table that describes 200 megabytes
> > worth of filesystem names.
> >
> > Welcome to the real world, Neo.
>
> You can. You can pass a pointer to it.
Absolutely. But don't call it "message passing" then, because it damn well
isn't.
Sure, "message passing" is a wonderful idea if you are allowed to redefine
it to say "pass pointers around". In fact, let's go one step further, and
just call a function call "message passing", since what it does is to make
a message out of the arguments, and then let the CPU do a "message pass"
operation to the target.
That proves that "message passing" is as efficient as traditional code,
while still having the obvious advantage of being about "messages", which
we all know are much better than those horrible "function calls".
I can speak the newspeak as well as anybody else.
But when I speak it, I realize when I'm full of shit.
Linus
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2004-02-27 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2004-02-27 23:22 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 6:43 Andrew Simmons
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2004-03-02 6:55 ` David Tolpin
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2004-02-27 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
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2004-02-27 9:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 8:33 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 9:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 12:14 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 4:48 ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-02 4:56 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 9:42 ` Bengt Kleberg
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2004-02-27 8:58 ` Linus Torvalds
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2004-02-27 4:45 [9fans] " dbailey27
2004-02-27 6:20 ` [9fans] " Linus Torvalds
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2004-02-27 6:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 6:48 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27 7:04 ` Linus Torvalds
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2004-02-27 7:30 ` a
2004-02-27 7:49 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27 7:39 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 7:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 8:00 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 8:05 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 8:06 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 7:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 7:46 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27 8:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 8:04 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27 8:19 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 15:28 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 8:11 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 8:17 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 8:31 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 9:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 8:44 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 10:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 9:52 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:00 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27 10:07 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:14 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27 10:24 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 11:40 ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-28 9:58 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-02-27 10:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 10:13 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 19:07 ` Donald Brownlee
2004-02-27 7:47 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-02-27 8:04 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-29 21:17 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 7:12 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 7:17 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27 8:01 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 8:06 ` Scott Schwartz
2004-02-27 8:15 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 7:06 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 7:53 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 12:23 ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 16:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 16:39 ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 17:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 17:03 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-02-27 17:50 ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 18:27 ` matt
2004-02-27 18:39 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-27 23:39 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01 8:44 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01 8:48 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01 8:59 ` Lucio De Re
2004-03-01 9:04 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01 9:16 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-01 9:19 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-01 15:47 ` ron minnich
2004-03-01 16:23 ` lucio
2004-03-01 18:04 ` viro
2004-03-02 9:37 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-03-02 10:16 ` lucio
2004-03-03 1:36 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-02 1:40 ` rob pike, esq.
2004-02-27 23:20 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01 10:34 ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-01 14:40 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-01 15:17 ` boyd
2004-03-02 9:42 ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-02 9:53 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 14:51 ` ron minnich
2004-03-03 9:33 ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-03 12:59 ` ron minnich
2004-03-03 13:10 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-03 13:21 ` ron minnich
2004-03-04 10:00 ` Yi Li
2004-03-04 11:22 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-05 15:17 ` Yi Li
2004-03-03 13:38 ` rog
2004-03-03 17:57 ` a
2004-03-01 15:56 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 9:42 ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-02-27 17:32 ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-29 21:10 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01 8:19 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 8:46 ` dbailey27
2004-03-01 9:34 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 10:02 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 10:12 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 10:40 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 11:56 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 17:29 ` rog
2004-03-02 6:38 ` 9nut
2004-03-01 19:02 ` Taj Khattra
2004-03-01 19:15 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 19:22 ` Joel Salomon
2004-03-01 19:43 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 21:07 ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-01 21:12 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 2:46 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 6:02 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 12:31 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-02 18:46 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 12:19 ` Dick Davies
2004-03-02 18:40 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 3:52 ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-04 9:07 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-01 21:15 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 21:20 ` rog
2004-03-02 2:48 ` Joel Salomon
2004-03-03 3:58 ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-01 9:36 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-01 12:06 ` boyd
2004-03-01 14:55 ` David Presotto
2004-03-01 12:18 ` boyd
2004-03-01 13:29 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01 13:33 ` lucio
2004-03-01 13:55 ` boyd
2004-03-02 4:13 ` Taj Khattra
2004-03-02 4:34 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2004-03-02 4:47 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 5:53 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2004-03-02 5:58 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 15:49 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 7:00 ` rob pike, esq.
2004-03-02 20:58 ` Andrew Simmons
2004-03-02 21:23 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-03 7:05 ` Anastasopoulos S
2004-03-03 5:11 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-03 5:26 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-03 9:49 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-03 12:41 ` boyd, rounin
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