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From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Threads: Sewing badges of honor onto a Kernel
Date: Mon,  1 Mar 2004 23:43:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403011943.i21Jh12q068203@adat.davidashen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4617.199.98.20.228.1078168977.squirrel@wish.cooper.edu>

> > I do not know what is ESP.
>
> Extra-Sensory Preception i.e. psychic powers.

No javadoc does not have ESP. But one can always browse the
documentation and see what interfaces are available. The javadoc
generated documentation is hyperlinked in its basic format,
which is very useful too.

> But limbo is alive and available, and can be tried out under Windows,
> plan9, linux, mac (I think).

Yes, I have Inferno installed under FreeBSD. The problem with limbo
for me is that it is much more 'a box in a box' than Java. This is
not a language available in Plan 9. It is a language of Inferno, a 
different system that happens to have common roots with Plan 9. And,
under FreeBSD, I cannot type in anything but English (that is,
I need Russian, Armenian and Hebrew keyboard input on daily basis)
without patching the kernel, I think.

I am not saying I cannot live without limbo/Java/whatever. I am
very happy with C, I've just compiled SCM under Plan9 and am going
to bring system interfaces in, and there is hugs ported.

But I would love to see something like limbo among basic 
tools of Plan9. Or like Java. Or, even better, both. And compare
how good they go in the same environment.

David



  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-01 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-27  4:45 [9fans] " dbailey27
2004-02-27  5:05 ` Scott Schwartz
2004-02-27  5:06 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-27  5:05   ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  5:26     ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  5:37       ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  5:47         ` ron minnich
2004-02-27  7:43           ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  5:54         ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  6:01           ` dbailey27
2004-02-29 21:14             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01  4:40               ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-02-27  5:06   ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  5:28 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  6:19   ` Scott Schwartz
2004-02-28  9:38   ` Bruce Ellis
2004-02-28 10:10     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-28 10:28       ` Bruce Ellis
2004-02-28 10:11     ` [9fans] limbo? David Tolpin
2004-02-28 10:22       ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-28 19:27       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-28 21:16       ` Russ Cox
2004-02-28 13:28     ` [9fans] Threads: Sewing badges of honor onto a Kernel boyd, rounin
2004-02-29 20:59     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  5:43 ` ron minnich
2004-02-27  5:50   ` George Michaelson
2004-02-27  5:59     ` ron minnich
2004-02-27  6:07       ` George Michaelson
2004-02-27  7:47       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  6:20 ` [9fans] " Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  6:31   ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  6:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  6:48       ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  7:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  7:06           ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  7:30             ` a
2004-02-27  7:49               ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  7:39             ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27  7:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  8:00                 ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  8:05                 ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27  8:06                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  7:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  7:46               ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  8:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  8:04                   ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  8:19                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 15:28                       ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27 16:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  8:11                   ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27  8:17                     ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  8:31                       ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27  9:46                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  8:44                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 10:00                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  9:52                           ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:00                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27 10:07                               ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:14                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27 10:24                                   ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 11:40                                     ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-28  9:58                               ` Bruce Ellis
2004-02-27 10:11                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 10:13                               ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27 10:36                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 19:07                   ` Donald Brownlee
2004-02-27  7:47               ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-02-27  8:04               ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-29 21:17             ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  7:12           ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  7:17             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-27  8:01               ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  8:06             ` Scott Schwartz
2004-02-27  8:15               ` Rob Pike
2004-02-27  7:06         ` Lucio De Re
2004-02-27  7:53         ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 12:23       ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 16:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 16:39           ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 17:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 17:03               ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-02-27 17:50               ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 18:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 18:27                   ` matt
2004-02-27 18:39                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-27 23:39                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01  8:44                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01  8:48                       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01  8:59                         ` Lucio De Re
2004-03-01  9:04                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01  9:16                             ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-01  9:19                               ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-01 15:47                           ` ron minnich
2004-03-01 16:23                             ` lucio
2004-03-01 18:04                               ` viro
2004-03-02  9:37                               ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-03-02 10:16                                 ` lucio
2004-03-03  1:36                             ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-02  1:40                       ` rob pike, esq.
2004-02-27 23:20               ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01 10:34               ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-01 14:40                 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-01 15:17                   ` boyd
2004-03-02  9:42                   ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-02  9:53                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 14:51                     ` ron minnich
2004-03-03  9:33                       ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-03-03 12:59                         ` ron minnich
2004-03-03 13:10                           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-03 13:21                             ` ron minnich
2004-03-04 10:00                               ` Yi Li
2004-03-04 11:22                                 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-05 15:17                                   ` Yi Li
2004-03-03 13:38                             ` rog
2004-03-03 17:57                             ` a
2004-03-01 15:56                 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02  9:42                   ` Bengt Kleberg
2004-02-27 17:32             ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-29 21:10               ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01  8:19                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01  8:46                   ` dbailey27
2004-03-01  9:34                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 10:02                       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 10:12                         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 10:40                       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 11:56                         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 17:29                           ` rog
2004-03-02  6:38                         ` 9nut
2004-03-01 19:02                       ` Taj Khattra
2004-03-01 19:15                         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-01 19:22                           ` Joel Salomon
2004-03-01 19:43                             ` David Tolpin [this message]
2004-03-01 21:07                               ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-01 21:12                                 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  2:46                                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02  6:02                                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 12:31                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-02 18:46                                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 12:19                                   ` Dick Davies
2004-03-02 18:40                                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04  3:52                                     ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-04  9:07                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-01 21:15                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-01 21:20                                 ` rog
2004-03-02  2:48                                   ` Joel Salomon
2004-03-03  3:58                           ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-01  9:36                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-01 12:06                     ` boyd
2004-03-01 14:55                       ` David Presotto
2004-03-01 12:18                   ` boyd
2004-03-01 13:29                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-01 13:33                       ` lucio
2004-03-01 13:55                       ` boyd
2004-03-02  4:13                   ` Taj Khattra
2004-03-02  4:34                     ` Roman Shaposhnick
2004-03-02  4:47                       ` ron minnich
2004-03-02  5:53                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2004-03-02  5:58                           ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 15:49                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02  7:00                     ` rob pike, esq.
2004-03-02 20:58                       ` Andrew Simmons
2004-03-02 21:23                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-03  7:05                           ` Anastasopoulos S
2004-03-03  5:11                         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-03  5:26                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-03  9:49                             ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-03 12:41                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-03  9:42                           ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-03  7:55                         ` 9nut
2004-02-27  6:59   ` Donald Brownlee
2004-02-27  7:49   ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 10:11 ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-02-28  5:20   ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-02-28  9:44     ` Nigel Roles
2004-02-28 11:08       ` viro
2004-02-28 13:40         ` Nigel Roles
2004-02-28 13:36           ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-28 14:14           ` viro
2004-02-28 18:16             ` Nigel Roles
2004-02-28 18:53               ` viro
2004-02-28 19:44                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-28 20:13                   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-01 11:50                   ` viro
2004-03-01 11:49                     ` dbailey27
2004-02-28 13:32       ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-01 10:35         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-03-01 11:01           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-01 19:13           ` Joel Salomon
2004-03-01 10:35       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-02-28 13:41     ` David Presotto
     [not found] <20040227081500.14366.qmail@g.galapagos.bx.psu.edu>
2004-02-27  8:58 ` [9fans] " Linus Torvalds
     [not found] <a7ec3985c6aeabd43949005aa6af0f67@collyer.net>
2004-02-27  9:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27  8:33   ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27  9:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 12:14       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02  4:48   ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-03-02  4:56     ` ron minnich
2004-03-02  9:42       ` Bengt Kleberg
     [not found] <dbcf45ba64ac8a77cd6a3dc6ba63b94b@plan9.escet.urjc.es>
2004-02-27 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-27 23:22   ` boyd, rounin
     [not found] <749601c045a56e4f77835f30907e255b@vitanuova.com>
2004-02-27 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found] <f62d09b11d1f097b3f4b5f6b70b65ea5@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02  6:55 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-04  6:43 Andrew Simmons

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