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* [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
@ 2013-03-29  6:34 phineas.pett
  2013-03-29 11:57 ` sl
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-29  6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

So I'm down with a fever today—really—and Glenda appeared to me in my
fitful dreams and shared its true inner thoughts about the the Earth's
inhabitants.  It's single poigniant utterance was singularly pithy,
and seemed to ring true on some cosmic level.  For just a moment, I
was at peace, and elevated—I believe—to that higher plane of
consciousness from which Plan 9 must have first emerged.  I thought it
might make a good slogan, so I slammed together another poster/flyer
(with appoligies to Stanley Kubrick this time).

Enjoy.

http://pdf.multics.org/Propaganda/




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29  6:34 [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-29 11:57 ` sl
  2013-03-29 12:22   ` dexen deVries
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: sl @ 2013-03-29 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

NO STRINGS ATTACHED



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 11:57 ` sl
@ 2013-03-29 12:22   ` dexen deVries
  2013-03-29 13:19     ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: dexen deVries @ 2013-03-29 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Friday 29 of March 2013 06:57:55 sl@9front.org wrote:
> NO STRINGS ATTACHED

it made my day, too.

technically those are zero-terminated arrays of Runes... ;-)

-- 
dexen deVries

[[[↓][→]]]




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 12:22   ` dexen deVries
@ 2013-03-29 13:19     ` erik quanstrom
  2013-03-29 22:02       ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-31  2:23       ` phineas.pett
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-03-29 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

are there larger or pdf versions of these.

- erik

ps.  shouldn't the last poster use glenda not
space glenda?



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29  6:34 [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line phineas.pett
  2013-03-29 11:57 ` sl
@ 2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
  2013-03-29 15:34   ` andrey mirtchovski
                     ` (3 more replies)
  1 sibling, 4 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2013-03-29 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Good work and funny; BTW, the server is down again.

I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)

-Skip

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM,  <phineas.pett@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I'm down with a fever today—really—and Glenda appeared to me in my
> fitful dreams and shared its true inner thoughts about the the Earth's
> inhabitants.  It's single poigniant utterance was singularly pithy,
> and seemed to ring true on some cosmic level.  For just a moment, I
> was at peace, and elevated—I believe—to that higher plane of
> consciousness from which Plan 9 must have first emerged.  I thought it
> might make a good slogan, so I slammed together another poster/flyer
> (with appoligies to Stanley Kubrick this time).
>
> Enjoy.
>
> http://pdf.multics.org/Propaganda/
>
>



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
@ 2013-03-29 15:34   ` andrey mirtchovski
  2013-03-29 16:58     ` hiro
  2013-03-29 22:00   ` phineas.pett
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2013-03-29 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)

it's not confirmed that it was presotto.



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 15:34   ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2013-03-29 16:58     ` hiro
  2013-03-29 22:33       ` phineas.pett
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2013-03-29 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

http://i.intma.in/images/e94b0201914dde087d6cf55e1c64edf9.gif
9front didn't like the face



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
  2013-03-29 15:34   ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2013-03-29 22:00   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-29 23:44   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-29 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> Good work and funny; BTW, the server is down again.

Thanks.  Apparently it is time to find a new host ☹

> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)

Not a bad idea, I'll see what I can do.




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 13:19     ` erik quanstrom
@ 2013-03-29 22:02       ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-29 22:04         ` erik quanstrom
  2013-03-31  2:23       ` phineas.pett
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-29 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> are there larger or pdf versions of these.

There are, I had to pull them down because I was in danger of
over-running my bandwidth quota, and after the server failure
yesterday I didn't want any more problems.  Since they are editable
PDFs, they are large files (the whole package is over 50M).  I admit I
completely underestimated the level of interest.  I'm working out the
best way of distributing them.

> ps.  shouldn't the last poster use glenda not > space glenda?

Good question, I think it originally did.  Some early feedback I
received was generally of the opinion that space glenda is
 ``cooler''.  I don't quite agree, but it did bias my
thinking a bit as I progressed.

Of course, the whole point of releasing editable PDFs was so that
people could adapt these things to their own purposes and make changes
they thought were appropriate.  One obvious need is for versions formatted
for A4 paper stock, rather than just 8½ x 11.  Its a little
complicated because some of these layouts bleed off the page and
everything has to be adjusted.  I'm happy to do it, but I wanted to
see if there was interest first.




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 22:02       ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-29 22:04         ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-03-29 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

On Fri Mar 29 18:03:05 EDT 2013, phineas.pett@gmail.com wrote:
> > are there larger or pdf versions of these.
>
> There are, I had to pull them down because I was in danger of
> over-running my bandwidth quota, and after the server failure
> yesterday I didn't want any more problems.  Since they are editable
> PDFs, they are large files (the whole package is over 50M).  I admit I
> completely underestimated the level of interest.  I'm working out the

these can be hosted on atom.9atom.net if you want.  i have bandwith
now.

- erik



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 16:58     ` hiro
@ 2013-03-29 22:33       ` phineas.pett
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From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-29 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> http://i.intma.in/images/e94b0201914dde087d6cf55e1c64edf9.gif

That's clever.  I wanted to do something with Kit-Cat from the start;
the best I could manage was to put it on the bulkhead of the flying
saucer in the movie poster.  I think it has potential as an adjunct
mascot—though there might be copyright issues if it is featured to
prominently.  (Something fitting about cats allegedly having 9
lives though...) Glenda is nice, but towards the end I felt the need to
consciously break with it as a design element and do something fresh
(which is were ``No Strings Attached'' came from).  I think this is
one of the aesthetic triumphs of 9Front's stuff—Nietzsche would
approve.

> 9front didn't like the face

I'm not sure I like the face either; though in context, is one is
_supposed_ to like it?




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
  2013-03-29 15:34   ` andrey mirtchovski
  2013-03-29 22:00   ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-29 23:44   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30  0:29     ` Aram Hăvărneanu
  2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-29 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)

Ok, I give up; what is this quote attributed to Presotto?  (I thought
I would find it on cat-v, but I'm not turning up anything...)





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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 23:44   ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-30  0:29     ` Aram Hăvărneanu
  2013-03-30  0:38       ` phineas.pett
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Aram Hăvărneanu @ 2013-03-30  0:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

> Ok, I give up; what is this quote attributed to Presotto?  (I thought
> I would find it on cat-v, but I'm not turning up anything...)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4398842

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30  0:29     ` Aram Hăvărneanu
@ 2013-03-30  0:38       ` phineas.pett
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-30  0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4398842

Whoa.  Alright then.  I'll see what I can do with that.  ☺




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 15:24 ` Skip Tavakkolian
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-03-29 23:44   ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30  9:34     ` Richard Miller
                       ` (2 more replies)
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From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-30  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)

Its a dangerous game to start taking requests, but here's a spec
layout.  Its certainly not the most elevated thing I've ever done, and
still needs some work; but the clean modernist design is meant to
counterpoint the crudity.

Humor of this sort walks a _very fine line_; and we should decide
whether we really want something like this before the world or whether
glorying in this sentiment is just self-indulgent.

http://pdf.multics.org/Propaganda/_We_Still_Are.pdf

Feedback?




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-30  9:34     ` Richard Miller
  2013-03-30 10:07       ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30 14:37     ` hiro
  2013-03-30 16:59     ` Kurt H Maier
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Richard Miller @ 2013-03-30  9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> whether we really want something like this before the world

No.




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30  9:34     ` Richard Miller
@ 2013-03-30 10:07       ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30 15:27         ` Skip Tavakkolian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-30 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

>> whether we really want something like this before the world
>
> No.

I think that's all the push my teetering creative conscience needed.
I've exercised authorial perogative and sent it to the bit-bucket.

This is not a dog I really wish to feed.








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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30  9:34     ` Richard Miller
@ 2013-03-30 14:37     ` hiro
  2013-03-30 16:59     ` Kurt H Maier
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2013-03-30 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

i can only see ads for duckduckgo thre

On 3/30/13, phineas.pett@gmail.com <phineas.pett@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
>> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)
>
> Its a dangerous game to start taking requests, but here's a spec
> layout.  Its certainly not the most elevated thing I've ever done, and
> still needs some work; but the clean modernist design is meant to
> counterpoint the crudity.
>
> Humor of this sort walks a _very fine line_; and we should decide
> whether we really want something like this before the world or whether
> glorying in this sentiment is just self-indulgent.
>
> http://pdf.multics.org/Propaganda/_We_Still_Are.pdf
>
> Feedback?
>
>
>



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30 10:07       ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-30 15:27         ` Skip Tavakkolian
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From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2013-03-30 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

though I didn't see it, I agree with the sentiment.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 3:07 AM,  <phineas.pett@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> whether we really want something like this before the world
>>
>> No.
>
> I think that's all the push my teetering creative conscience needed.
> I've exercised authorial perogative and sent it to the bit-bucket.
>
> This is not a dog I really wish to feed.
>
>
>
>
>
>



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-30  7:24   ` phineas.pett
  2013-03-30  9:34     ` Richard Miller
  2013-03-30 14:37     ` hiro
@ 2013-03-30 16:59     ` Kurt H Maier
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Kurt H Maier @ 2013-03-30 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 07:24:12AM +0000, phineas.pett@gmail.com wrote:
> whether we really want something like this before the world

Yes.



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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9  ``propaganda server'' back on line
  2013-03-29 13:19     ` erik quanstrom
  2013-03-29 22:02       ` phineas.pett
@ 2013-03-31  2:23       ` phineas.pett
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-31  2:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> are there larger or pdf versions of these.

The full-size PDFs are back on the site.

They are linked to files on the 9atom servers where Erik has
generously offered to host them to circumvent my immediate bandwidth
constraints.  Thanks Erik!

I have just a couple remarks.  These are editable PDFs (all layers
preserved, etc.).  If anyone wishes to make their own changes feel
free.  I appreciate that all members of this list may not have (or
want) access to the ponderous and preponderant Adobe beasts through
which these where wrought.  So if you would like changes for a special
purpose (adaptation for A4 print stock, removal of the ink bleed,
addition of printer's marks, etc.) and don't have the means, let me
know and I'll do what I can.

Lastly, there is intentionally no PDF for ``All You of Earth...'' this is a very
recent addition and really just a draft.




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* Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line
@ 2013-03-30 18:17 phineas.pett
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From: phineas.pett @ 2013-03-30 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 23hiro, 9fans

i can only see ads for duckduckgo thre

On 3/30/13, phineas.pett@gmail.com <phineas.pett@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes
>> by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind)
>
> Its a dangerous game to start taking requests, but here's a spec
> layout.  Its certainly not the most elevated thing I've ever done, and
> still needs some work; but the clean modernist design is meant to
> counterpoint the crudity.
>
> Humor of this sort walks a _very fine line_; and we should decide
> whether we really want something like this before the world or whether
> glorying in this sentiment is just self-indulgent.
>
> http://pdf.multics.org/Propaganda/_We_Still_Are.pdf
>

The link is dead, never to be repaired.  Sorry.




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2013-03-29 13:19     ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-29 22:02       ` phineas.pett
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