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From: "Filipp Andronov" <filipp.andronov@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] A newbie question...
Date: Sun,  3 Feb 2008 11:44:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b11249e00802030044h7421d201ice9050be15f524c4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.t5xupgnfc6yvfe@computer>

Hmmm, my question was not about new ideological war "GNU vs Plan9". ))
I think that my bad English does not allow me to ask my question in
correct form, so i will show some sample :)

For example, in Linux i have some big application.
This application using autotools, so if a want to port it, for example
on different OS (of course if this OS has autotools) or hardware all i
need is go throw sources and put something like:
#ifdef RUN_IN_CYGWIN
 // some specific code
#endif
After that i need to add extra tests in configure and autotools will
do all magic for me :)
The main trouble is that all sources has really many pieces of #ifdef
code, so it could be very painful to drop out "portability in GNU
way".  But it's ok, until that is a only way.

Ok, for me "porting" to plan9 looks like:
1. Drop out autotools from project
2. Replace all OS specific code to Plan9 equivalent
3. Replace all libs to it's equivalent for plan9
4. and so on

Main trouble in 1 step. Because after that i couldn't post in project
mail list, "Hey gays, i have create Plan9 port of your application,
please check it out and put in CVS trunk". If i "port" some
application in that way, that mean that I've start new one, "from
scratch" and just copy & paste some code from original project :((

I hope that i have logical mistakes in my example, and you show me
that, because if not it could be very sad  :))



2008/2/3, Eris Discordia <eris.discordia@gmail.com>:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:30:38 -0000, Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>  An alternative interpretation is that the facts are skewed by the Bell
> >>  Labs reality distortion field.  The syllogism goes something like this:
> >>
> >>  All things not made at Bell Labs are bad
> >>  GNU is not made at Bell Labs
> >>  Therefore, GNU is bad
> >>
> >
> > If you think about what the letters of GNU stand for, you might
> > appreciate
> > that the forms are in mutual opposition.  They provide completely
> > different
> > approaches to software.  "Good" and "Bad" are value judgments.  If
> > you think GNU is the right way to build things, Plan 9 is probably not
> > for you, and vice versa.
> >
> > -rob
>
> Is that "the" Rob Pike? "The R?"
>
> If so, please accept me humble reverence, sire! Hallowed be thy practice
> (of programming)!
>
> P. S. Down here in my country, Iran, we have this tradition of inventing
> sacred things out of thin air. A considerable proportion of "the divine
> and the sacred" spilled all over the globe began with that frailty of ours
> :-D
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>


  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-03  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-01  0:22 Michael Andronov
2008-02-01  0:25 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-01  0:31   ` john
2008-02-01  0:30 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-04  0:59   ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-01  2:16 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-01  8:50 ` John Stalker
2008-02-01 17:15   ` Michael Andronov
2008-02-02  4:43     ` Michael Andronov
2008-02-02  4:57       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 13:02         ` Steve Simon
2008-02-04 10:21           ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-04 10:52             ` mattmobile
2008-02-04 11:12               ` Uriel
2008-02-04 11:47                 ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-04 15:42                   ` Alf
2008-02-04 16:06                     ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-04 16:53                       ` Steve Simon
2008-02-04 19:51                       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-06  9:53                   ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-06 19:11                     ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-02-07  1:32                       ` Uriel
2008-02-07  1:44                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-07  9:54                       ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-06  9:45               ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-04 11:09             ` Uriel
2008-02-06  9:53               ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-04 14:32             ` [9fans] cross-compilation Charles Forsyth
2008-02-02  4:57       ` [9fans] A newbie question Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02  7:12         ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-02 14:57           ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 15:30             ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-02 15:33               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 15:48                 ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-02 16:04                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 16:34                     ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-02 16:10                   ` Charles Forsyth
2008-02-02 17:41                     ` Uriel
2008-02-02 18:27                       ` Martin Neubauer
2008-02-02 19:22                         ` Juan M. Mendez
2008-02-02 19:42                           ` Anthony Sorace
2008-02-02 20:10                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-04  1:49                             ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-02 22:25                           ` ron minnich
2008-02-03  0:17                           ` Robert William Fuller
2008-02-03  0:30                             ` Rob Pike
2008-02-03  7:51                               ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-03  8:44                                 ` Filipp Andronov [this message]
2008-02-03  9:30                                   ` lucio
2008-02-03 11:39                                     ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-03 12:49                                       ` lucio
2008-02-03 13:25                                         ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-03 14:10                                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-04  2:05                                     ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-08 16:40                                     ` plan9
2008-02-03 14:07                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-03  0:33                             ` Uriel
2008-02-03  1:42                             ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-03  1:55                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-03 14:47                                 ` Paweł Lasek
     [not found]                                   ` <b11249e00802030713x2e08a3d4g4d395c53e1bf658c@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <F9E7B91B-B3DD-4F5F-92F2-9556311B559D@mac.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <b11249e00802030728p6475625kd19bdf54666272df@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <6018296E-43A8-43D5-94C1-6EE4B7CE36B6@mac.com>
     [not found]                                           ` <b11249e00802030756k6d11a110g76c2be92fc88d058@mail.gmail.com>
2008-02-03 16:12                                             ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-04  2:57                                             ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-04  8:00                                               ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-04  2:03                                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-03  7:31                               ` john
2008-02-03 15:01                             ` dave.l
2008-02-03 15:10                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 21:16                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-02 22:01                           ` Martin Neubauer
2008-02-04  1:02                       ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-04  1:11                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-04  1:19           ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-02-04  1:29             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-02-05  2:23               ` David Arnold
2008-02-05  2:26                 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-05  2:38                   ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-05  2:51                     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-05  3:00                       ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-02-06  9:53                         ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-05  3:35                   ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-02-05  2:31                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-02  4:57 kokamoto
2008-02-04 12:12 gdiaz
2008-02-04 12:47 ` Filipp Andronov
2008-02-04 13:01   ` Uriel
2008-02-04 13:41     ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-04 13:59       ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-04 14:36         ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-04 14:43         ` Martin Neubauer
2008-02-06  9:53         ` Greg Comeau
2008-02-06 10:02           ` erik quanstrom

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