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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:08:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf059624f64f3a2ce45ab5fa59409609@oarsank.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920705102248k42a46917p410d84fd4448df01@mail.gmail.com>

>> and will proactively slow me down because I have answer
>> questions about 'why doesn't this compile?  what the f*** are you
>> doing here?  where is this function you call (that I haven't written
>> yet)?'  etc.  Even ignoring those questions takes time.
> 
> Has this ever really been a problem or it is pure speculation?

This is based on many years of hands-on experience.

> First you ask not to be bothered by anyone, and now you want people to
> email you so you can "let each other know where we're stepping on each
> other.'" I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Continuing the IMAP analogy, for me to put up fragments if client-side
IMAP message caching code would not do any good to anyone who isn't
intimately familiar with that specific problem space.  Typically the
would-be downloader sees "IMAP" and latches on with the hope they will
find a tool that will help them sort and filter their mail.  But when
they double-click on imcache.c they get some strange pop-up dialog
from Windows instead of the IMAP email client they were expecting.
Avoiding that requires an access filter.  A semantic filter that keeps
the programming-naive away is a wonderful idea -- spam filtering for
programmer wannabes :-) -- but it aint out there yet.  This could be a
work-in-progress that you could keep on /n/sources/contrib.
Meanwhile, I want to keep my IMAP code within the group of people I
know actually *know* how IMAP works, so that I can actually develop
the code.

I don't have a problem with releasing code for people to look at, play
with, compile, sell, whatever.  That's why my escaped goo has a BSD
license on it.  But I'm not going to put out any work I create unless
and until I (I, *I*, *me*, not anyone else) decides it's ready to be
seen in public.  And nobody (*NO*body) has the right to tell me
otherwise.

> Plan 9 is the only "open source" project where this kind of ridiculous
> practices exist.  Why on earth Plan 9 has to be different and drive
> everyone around crazy is beyond me.

Maybe we aren't trying to solve penis envy?

--lyndon



  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-11  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-10  8:34 Antonin
2007-05-10 12:14 ` Antonin
2007-05-10 12:25   ` Federico Benavento
2007-05-10 13:33   ` Antonin
2007-05-10 13:45 ` Markus Sonderegger
2007-05-10 12:36   ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-10 14:35     ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-05-10 15:18     ` Markus Sonderegger
2007-05-10 13:46       ` C H Forsyth
2007-05-10 13:55         ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-10 14:15           ` C H Forsyth
2007-05-10 15:59           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2007-05-10 19:26             ` Uriel
2007-05-11  3:57               ` Vester Thacker
2007-05-11  4:24                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-05-11  4:50                   ` Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
2007-05-11 10:30                     ` Markus Sonderegger
2007-05-11 11:58                     ` Steve Simon
2007-05-11  4:42                 ` Uriel
2007-05-11  4:47                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-05-11  5:13                     ` Uriel
2007-05-11  5:32                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-05-11  5:48                         ` Uriel
2007-05-11  6:08                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2007-05-11  6:28                             ` Uriel
2007-05-11 17:35                               ` lucio
2007-05-11 19:24                                 ` Uriel
2007-05-11 19:52                                   ` lucio
2007-05-11 20:05                                   ` lucio
2007-05-11 22:35                                     ` Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
2007-05-12  4:11                                       ` lucio
2007-05-12  4:13                                       ` lucio
2007-05-12  0:43                                     ` Tom Lieber
2007-05-12  4:34                                       ` lucio
2007-05-17  9:50                                     ` Dave Lukes
2007-05-17 10:23                                       ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-17 11:25                                         ` matt
2007-05-17 11:52                                         ` Dave Lukes
2007-05-17 11:59                                           ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-17 13:04                                       ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 17:53                                       ` lucio
2007-05-11 11:37                         ` Russ Cox
2007-05-11 14:57                       ` Paul Lalonde

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