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From: Jason Catena <jason.catena@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] nice quote
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 2009 16:52:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d50d7d460909041452r34c15adbl76e2c932ef988418@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BB8E3A2E5419E566D0361D29@192.168.1.2>

Hailed Eris:
> One serious question today would be: what's LISP _really_ good for?

It's not LISP, but I've found Haskell good for writing terse code that
works.  Once you get your code past the type checker, it's likely to
just work for the forseeable future if it's pure.  Most tricky code
ends up pure, since the transforms are usually the more extensive,
interesting, and clever (ie difficult to debug) part of a (especially
pipeline-based) program.

I don't really care that a language is or is not close to the machine,
if the compiler (ie GHC) gets it in the same order of magnitude
runtime as C.  In fact, I'd rather manipulate lists with higher-order
functions, and just get the job done, than hack around with this
year's new idioms to make C all things to all people.  Best tool for
the job and all that: C has a great niche as an OS language, but
sometimes it's better just to write less, more stable code (eg xmonad
vs any C-based window manager).

Jason Catena



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-04 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-02 14:29 ron minnich
2009-09-02 14:51 ` Rodolfo (kix)
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 11:15     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-09-03 13:59       ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 15:01     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 15:19 ` Enrique Soriano
2009-09-02 16:38 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-02 16:56   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 16:58   ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-02 17:03     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 17:36       ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-02 18:08         ` Richard Miller
2009-09-02 18:27           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 18:35             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-02 18:46               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 15:02                 ` Uriel
2009-09-03 15:02                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 19:10             ` Jonathan Cast
2009-09-02 20:02               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 20:23                 ` Jonathan Cast
2009-09-02 20:45                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 17:31 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-02 18:25   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 18:47 ` ron minnich
2009-09-02 19:11   ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-09-02 19:32     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 22:59     ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03  9:53       ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 11:24         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-09-03 12:01           ` tlaronde
2009-09-03 12:06             ` Brantley Coile
2009-09-03 14:03               ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 15:13               ` Jason Catena
2009-09-04  9:04                 ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 14:02             ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 14:57               ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-04  9:04                 ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 17:40               ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-09-04  9:03                 ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04 17:47                   ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-09-04 18:01                     ` Jack Norton
2009-09-04 20:18                     ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-04 21:36                       ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-04 22:50                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-05 14:14                         ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]                         ` <7AAFE4127E1DB57785BB273A@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-05 14:36                           ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-06  1:58                           ` Jason Catena
2009-09-06  3:38                             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-06 18:29                               ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-06 18:44                                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-06 17:08                             ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]                             ` <9C0E59DDCCDD197FBD4EC404@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-06 18:05                               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-06 18:34                                 ` James Chapman
2009-09-06 18:26                             ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-06 18:40                               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-07  8:54                         ` Paul Donnelly
2009-09-07  9:07                       ` Greg Comeau
     [not found]                     ` <BB8E3A2E5419E566D0361D29@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-04 21:52                       ` Jason Catena [this message]
2009-09-05 11:02                         ` Richard Miller
2009-09-05 11:22                           ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-05 12:11                             ` tlaronde
2009-09-06 20:04                               ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-09-06 20:45                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-07  7:51                                   ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-09-05 13:38                             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-07  9:07                             ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:39                               ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-07 15:49                                 ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07 15:58                                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-07 20:56                                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
2009-09-07 21:21                                       ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-09-07 21:33                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
2009-09-09  8:30                                           ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-09 11:22                                             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-09 15:48                                               ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-09 16:00                                                 ` Russ Cox
2009-09-09 16:37                                                   ` Abhishek Kulkarni
2009-09-09 16:51                                                     ` Jack Norton
2009-09-09 16:07                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-09 16:07                                                 ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-09 16:08                                                 ` Richard Miller
2009-09-09 16:13                                                   ` Richard Miller
2009-09-10 21:45                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-11  7:54                                                     ` Richard Miller
2009-09-11 10:21                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-09 16:11                                                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-09 16:29                                                 ` Jason Catena
2009-09-09 17:17                                                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-09-09 18:36                                                   ` Jason Catena
2009-09-09 17:29                                                 ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-09 17:57                                                 ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-10 11:59                                                 ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]                                                 ` <99A870099C1B1D6560F4CF1A@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-10 15:58                                                   ` hiro
2009-09-10 21:24                                                     ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-09  8:30                                       ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-09  8:29                                     ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-05 14:27                           ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-05 14:33                           ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]                           ` <B6F7A6BD1919CC67B621FDE3@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-05 14:36                             ` John Floren
2009-09-05 14:51                               ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-05 19:30                                 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-05 23:48                                   ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-05 18:26                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-06  0:05                                 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-06  0:17                                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-06  0:37                                     ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-06  0:56                                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-06 16:51                                         ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-06 17:32                                           ` tlaronde
2009-09-06  4:23                                 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-09-06 17:24                                   ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]                                   ` <393394D0A7F3F4A227F94CDA@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-06 18:03                                     ` Rob Pike
2009-09-06 19:26                                       ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-07 15:47                                       ` J.R. Mauro
2009-09-07  8:54                     ` Paul Donnelly
2009-09-07  9:04                       ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-07  9:05                       ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-09-07  9:05                     ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:49                       ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-07 11:34                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-07 16:00                         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07 19:23                           ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-09  8:29                             ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-09  8:35                           ` Paul Donnelly
2009-09-03 19:38               ` tlaronde
2009-09-03 21:55                 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-03 22:01                 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-09-07  8:54                   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04  9:15                 ` Greg Comeau

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