From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:46:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea77a9df4f48d36591cd0fa81884379c@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8EF2BE3979C2B3276A4E0D@[192.168.1.2]>
> > i'm not a linguist, but the linguists i know subscribe to the
> > viewpoint that the written and spoken language are separate.
> > and evolve separately. i would derive from this that writability
> > is independent of pronouncability.
>
> If a sequence of symbols corresponds to something from a natural language
> then it must be pronounceable since it must have been uttered at some time.
> The same rule may not apply to "extensions" to natural language (acronyms,
> stenography) or artificial languages (mathematics, computer programs).
i believe this distinction between "natural" and "artificial"
languages is, uh, arbitrary. think of the symbols that people
im each other with. these are largely unpronouncable. and
i've only heard a few ever pronunced at all. (rofl comes to mind,
though that term predates my knowledge of text messaging).
i also am not sure that there is such a thing as an extension to
a language. natural languages never have sharp boundaries
and are pretty dynamic. when did "byte" become a word?
when did "gift" become a verb? look how fast text-ese has
evolved.
my concept of a language looks more like a standard deviation
than a box.
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-12 1:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-11 8:40 xiangyu
2009-09-11 10:23 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-11 11:29 ` Alexander Sychev
2009-09-11 16:13 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-11 17:49 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-11 19:14 ` Eris Discordia
[not found] ` <68F5914168759B188DF09A60@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-11 19:53 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-11 21:28 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-11 22:16 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-12 1:19 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-12 1:46 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-09-12 7:05 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-12 8:39 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-12 14:22 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-12 14:27 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-12 14:39 ` Eris Discordia
[not found] ` <160F5E4B5D4057F12BB54C75@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-12 20:22 ` Nick LaForge
[not found] ` <C890B1F2A8C2EC12D5383D7C@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-11 21:59 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-14 9:33 ` Paul Donnelly
2009-09-14 12:47 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-11 16:54 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-11 18:36 ` Eris Discordia
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