[9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[Dimitry Golubovsky]

Hi,

I am trying to logon to 9grid.us:

drawterm -c texas.9grid.us -a sources.cs.bell-labs.com

as recommended.

I get plan9 console in drawterm, but after I enter username it says:

not on local console, won't ask for password

and drawterm exits in about 30 seconds. Nothing is printed on stderr.

I tried to strace: drawterm tries to connect to texas.9grid.us on port 
17013 (and this port responds if telnetting to). But 
sources.cs.bell-labs.com refuses connection on port 17005 (is this right 
port for authentication?).

My attempts are based on the information from www.9grid.us that having a 
source account (which I created) is enough to logon.

Is 9grid.us currently unavailable?

Dimitry Golubovsky

Middletown, CT

Re: [9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[Eric Van Hensbergen]

It seems like I had some trouble contacting sources.cs.bell-labs.com
last night, but it seems to be working now.  Try it again and let me
know if you are still having trouble.

         -eric


On 8/5/05, Dimitry Golubovsky <dimitry@golubovsky.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to logon to 9grid.us:
> 
> drawterm -c texas.9grid.us -a sources.cs.bell-labs.com
> 
> as recommended.
> 
> I get plan9 console in drawterm, but after I enter username it says:
> 
> not on local console, won't ask for password
> 
> and drawterm exits in about 30 seconds. Nothing is printed on stderr.
> 
> I tried to strace: drawterm tries to connect to texas.9grid.us on port
> 17013 (and this port responds if telnetting to). But
> sources.cs.bell-labs.com refuses connection on port 17005 (is this right
> port for authentication?).
> 
> My attempts are based on the information from www.9grid.us that having a
> source account (which I created) is enough to logon.
> 
> Is 9grid.us currently unavailable?
> 
> Dimitry Golubovsky
> 
> Middletown, CT
> 
>

Re: [9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[Dimitry Golubovsky]

Eric,

Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> It seems like I had some trouble contacting sources.cs.bell-labs.com
> last night, but it seems to be working now.  Try it again and let me
> know if you are still having trouble.
> 

I had similar problem with 9grid.de, and Cristoph kindly pointed me out 
to the function in drawterm that checked for locality of the X display. 
As this is exactly my situation that X server runs on a separate 
computer (i. e. X-terminal), so I added an option to drawterm to bypass 
this check. After that I was able to access both 9grids and login, but 
it turned out drawterm crashed my X server (the pattern is steady), so 
the X-terminal rebooted (and this is good that it is separate from the 
main computer). This is definitely a problem on my side.

Just in case, maybe someone had similar troubles with drawterm and 
certain old/buggy X servers? Mine is Xfree86 v 3.3.6, S3 Trio64+. If 
there are any other combinations that don't work please let me know.

Dimitry Golubovsky
Middletown, CT

Re: [9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[andrey mirtchovski]

> 
> I had similar problem with 9grid.de, and Cristoph kindly pointed me out 
> to the function in drawterm that checked for locality of the X display. 
> As this is exactly my situation that X server runs on a separate 
> computer (i. e. X-terminal), so I added an option to drawterm to bypass 
> this check.

drawterm will happily connect when not running on the local display if
you supply '-n' as an argument at the command line.  of course you'll
need a program that can do netkey authentication so you won't have to
transmit your password in plain text, but there are several of those
available on the net.

it's a feature, not a bug.

Re: [9fans] drawterm crashed X-server

[Dimitry Golubovsky]

Followup:

Dimitry Golubovsky wrote:


> this check. After that I was able to access both 9grids and login, but 
> it turned out drawterm crashed my X server (the pattern is steady), so 
> the X-terminal rebooted (and this is good that it is separate from the 
> main computer). This is definitely a problem on my side.
> 
> Just in case, maybe someone had similar troubles with drawterm and 
> certain old/buggy X servers? Mine is Xfree86 v 3.3.6, S3 Trio64+. If 
> there are any other combinations that don't work please let me know.

Interestingly enough, it crashed with 16bpp, but does not with 24bpp.


Dimitry Golubovsky
Middletown, CT

Re: [9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[Russ Cox]

> drawterm will happily connect when not running on the local display if
> you supply '-n' as an argument at the command line.  of course you'll
> need a program that can do netkey authentication so you won't have to
> transmit your password in plain text, but there are several of those
> available on the net.
> 
> it's a feature, not a bug.

it may still be safer to type your password over the local
network so that you can get an encrypted cpu connection.

russ

Re: [9fans] 9grid: is it available now?

[Ronald G Minnich]

andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> it's a feature, not a bug.
> 

I disabled the feature in my drawterm anyway. It caused trouble in xen.

ron