[9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

I am running Richard Miller's port of Plan 9
on the Raspberry Pi. It's great!

However, I have a little trouble using my
German USB keyboard with it. The Umlauts (ä, ö, etc.)
work fine; however, the key with "<", ">" and "|"
does not work at all. It seems like the scan code
is not recognized by the USB driver.

Note: It may be that the key (as hardware) does
not exist on US keyboards:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:German-T2-Keyboard-Prototype-May-2012.jpg

(It is the key at the bottom-left, next to Shift)

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Holger Sebert

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Bakul Shah]

On 20 Apr 2013 18:31:02 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>
> However, I have a little trouble using my
> German USB keyboard with it.

See
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/setting_the_right_keyboard_map/

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Am 20.04.13 21:14, schrieb Bakul Shah:
> On 20 Apr 2013 18:31:02 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>>
>> However, I have a little trouble using my
>> German USB keyboard with it.
>
> See
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/setting_the_right_keyboard_map/
>

I have already done that and the Umlauts etc.
work fine, it is just the "<,>,|"-key that
does not work.

This phenomenon does not exist on a x86-based
installation of Plan 9, so it seems specific
to the Raspberry Pi.

Best,
Holger

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Bakul Shah]

On 20 Apr 2013 22:08:00 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
> This phenomenon does not exist on a x86-based
> installation of Plan 9, so it seems specific
> to the Raspberry Pi.

Strange.... Is the x86 installation on real hardware or under
a VM? If the latter, the underlying OS may be doing the right
thing for you. In any case, you can try to find out what
scancodes are reported and create your own kbmap file.

% echo kbargs -dd > /dev/usbdctl
Remove and replug your keyboard and watch what happens when
you press your "< | >" key.

When I do this I get a constant stream of

kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0
kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0
kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0

which is probably due to my el-cheapo keyboard
but may be this will behave better for you.

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

Am 21.04.13 01:18, schrieb Bakul Shah:
> On 20 Apr 2013 22:08:00 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>> This phenomenon does not exist on a x86-based
>> installation of Plan 9, so it seems specific
>> to the Raspberry Pi.
>
> Strange.... Is the x86 installation on real hardware or under
> a VM? If the latter, the underlying OS may be doing the right
> thing for you. In any case, you can try to find out what
> scancodes are reported and create your own kbmap file.
>
> % echo kbargs -dd > /dev/usbdctl
> Remove and replug your keyboard and watch what happens when
> you press your "< | >" key.
>
> When I do this I get a constant stream of
>
> kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0
> kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0
> kbd mod 0: kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0 kc 0
>
> which is probably due to my el-cheapo keyboard
> but may be this will behave better for you.
>

I have tried it out: The driver says
"sc: e0 56" when pressing the "<"-key.
This is nice! However, I have no idea how
to put this (extended?) scan code into
the kbmap-file. The naive try:

0 0xe056 '<

resulted in "cat: write error copying lib/kbmap/de:
bad arg in system call".

Any idea?

Best,
Holger

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Bakul Shah]

On 24 Apr 2013 21:25:13 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>
> I have tried it out: The driver says
> "sc: e0 56" when pressing the "<"-key.

This means a two char sequence: e0, 0x56 is stuffed into the
kernel device kbin. Ultimately thsi will map to the value in
kbtabesc1[0x56]. Now kbtabesc1 is table 2 in a kbmap so we are
looking for an entry that starts with
	2	86	...	# 86 == 0x56
In /sys/lib/kbmap/de I see
	2       86      0
This explains why you don't see anything.  What you want to do
is to copy this file to, say, de2 and replace the above with
	2	86	'<
And then put the following in $home/lib/profile
	cat /sys/lib/kbmap/de2 > /dev/kbmap
Probably under 'case terminal'.

Repeat this analysis for other keys that don't work right.  I
did a quick reading so may have missed something but hopefully
you can follow the code yourself now. You will have to look at
the following files

    /sys/src/cmd/usb/kb/kb.c
    /sys/src/9/port/devkb*.c
    /sys/src/9/omap/kbd.c	 (what 9/bcm/kbd.c points to)

> This is nice! However, I have no idea how
> to put this (extended?) scan code into
> the kbmap-file. The naive try:
>
> 0 0xe056 '<

This won't work. The first item selects a scanmap (a 128
element array).  The second item is an *index* into this
array. The third item is the Rune that goes in that slot.
See kbmap.c to find the mapping between table number and
a kbtab* array.

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

Am 24.04.13 22:56, schrieb Bakul Shah:
> On 24 Apr 2013 21:25:13 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>>
>> I have tried it out: The driver says
>> "sc: e0 56" when pressing the "<"-key.
>
> This means a two char sequence: e0, 0x56 is stuffed into the
> kernel device kbin. Ultimately thsi will map to the value in
> kbtabesc1[0x56]. Now kbtabesc1 is table 2 in a kbmap so we are
> looking for an entry that starts with
> 	2	86	...	# 86 == 0x56
> In /sys/lib/kbmap/de I see
> 	2       86      0
> This explains why you don't see anything.  What you want to do
> is to copy this file to, say, de2 and replace the above with
> 	2	86	'<
> And then put the following in $home/lib/profile
> 	cat /sys/lib/kbmap/de2 > /dev/kbmap
> Probably under 'case terminal'.

Thanks alot! This gets the '<'-key going.

I have tried to put the key-with-modifier (Shift and AltGr)
chars into the kbmap but with no result. "3 86 '>" and "4 86 '|"
get all ignored.

I looked into kbd.c and it seems the driver does not support
modified states of extended scan codes of the form "e0 ??".

A hack would probably be possible, but maybe I am overlooking
something?

If not, how do I recompile and install the kbd-module on the
Raspberry Pi? I changed kbd.c for testing purposes and
executed "mk install" in the directory /sys/src/9/. Although
the build succeeded the changes did not seem to be incorporated.

Sorry for drifting off topic here ...

Best,
Holger

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[erik quanstrom]

> If not, how do I recompile and install the kbd-module on the
> Raspberry Pi? I changed kbd.c for testing purposes and
> executed "mk install" in the directory /sys/src/9/. Although
> the build succeeded the changes did not seem to be incorporated.

unfortunately. you need to rebuild all of usb (or at least usbd), then your kernel
for the changes to always take effect.

- erik

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Yaroslav]

2013/4/25 Holger Sebert <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>:
> If not, how do I recompile and install the kbd-module on the
> Raspberry Pi? I changed kbd.c for testing purposes and
> executed "mk install" in the directory /sys/src/9/. Although
> the build succeeded the changes did not seem to be incorporated.

mk install usually installs the kernel to /$objtype, but rpi boots
from dos partition of an SD card, therefore you also need to copy it
over there:
; dosmnt 1 /n/dos
; cp /arm/9pi /n/dos/
; unmount /n/dos  # or simply close the window

--
- Yaroslav

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[erik quanstrom]

> 2013/4/25 Holger Sebert <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>:
> > If not, how do I recompile and install the kbd-module on the
> > Raspberry Pi? I changed kbd.c for testing purposes and
> > executed "mk install" in the directory /sys/src/9/. Although
> > the build succeeded the changes did not seem to be incorporated.
>
> mk install usually installs the kernel to /$objtype, but rpi boots
> from dos partition of an SD card, therefore you also need to copy it
> over there:
> ; dosmnt 1 /n/dos
> ; cp /arm/9pi /n/dos/
> ; unmount /n/dos  # or simply close the window

simply "9fat:" should work.  no need to unmount.

- erik

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Richard Miller]

> simply "9fat:" should work.

Not on a normal 9pi SD card, which has a dos partition and no 9fat.

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[erik quanstrom]

On Fri Apr 26 08:35:10 EDT 2013, 9fans@hamnavoe.com wrote:
> > simply "9fat:" should work.
>
> Not on a normal 9pi SD card, which has a dos partition and no 9fat.
>

i missed this fix:

minooka; 9diff /rc/bin/9fat:
/n/sources/plan9/rc/bin/9fat::1,7 - /rc/bin/9fat::1,7
  #!/bin/rc

  rfork e
- part=`{ls /dev/fs/9fat /dev/sd*/9fat >[2]/dev/null}
+ part=`{ls /dev/fs/9fat /dev/sd*/9fat /dev/sd*/dos >[2]/dev/null}
  if(~ $#part 0) {
  	echo 'no 9fat partition found' >[1=2]
  	exit no.9fat

- erik

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

I did a quick hack on kbd.c and could make the "<,>,|" key
work. Awesome! Thank you all for your help.

In the 'bcm' directory some modules refer to 'omap' although
they apparently mean 'port', like this:

#include "../omap/random.c"

which should be

#include "../port/random.c"

Although it was easy to fix, I wonder where this inconsistency
in the source tree came from. Did I miss an update or something?

Furthermore, I noticed that the build system would build _all_
of the kernel each time I invoke 'mk', even though only little
or nothing has changed. Is this the way it is intended to be?

Best,
Holger

Am 25.04.13 22:41, schrieb erik quanstrom:
>> If not, how do I recompile and install the kbd-module on the
>> Raspberry Pi? I changed kbd.c for testing purposes and
>> executed "mk install" in the directory /sys/src/9/. Although
>> the build succeeded the changes did not seem to be incorporated.
>
> unfortunately. you need to rebuild all of usb (or at least usbd), then your kernel
> for the changes to always take effect.
>
> - erik
>

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Bakul Shah]

On 28 Apr 2013 22:01:17 +0200 "Holger Sebert" <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did a quick hack on kbd.c and could make the "<,>,|" key
> work. Awesome! Thank you all for your help.

What was the fix?

> In the 'bcm' directory some modules refer to 'omap' although
> they apparently mean 'port', like this:
>
> #include "../omap/random.c"
>
> which should be
>
> #include "../port/random.c"

Files from ../port are automatically picked up so you don't
need files in bcm that just include ../port/something.

> Furthermore, I noticed that the build system would build _all_
> of the kernel each time I invoke 'mk', even though only little
> or nothing has changed. Is this the way it is intended to be?

Looks like your source files have a modification time newer
than the current time (as seen on your machine).  Either
manually set date/time on boot (if not connected to the net)
or set
	TIMESYNCARGS=(-n pool.ntp.org)
in /rc/bin/termrc.local.  Pick a public ntpserver near you
instead of pool.ntp.org.

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Richard Miller]

> #include "../omap/random.c"
>
> which should be
>
> #include "../port/random.c"
>
> Although it was easy to fix, I wonder where this inconsistency
> in the source tree came from. Did I miss an update or something?

I think you did.  /sys/src/9/bcm/random.c should have been deleted.

> Furthermore, I noticed that the build system would build _all_
> of the kernel each time I invoke 'mk', even though only little
> or nothing has changed. Is this the way it is intended to be?

Is your pi connected to the internet?  If not, its time will be
reset to the kernel build time each time you reboot (a function
of the "fakertc" device, which was probably not a very good idea).
When time goes backwards, 'mk' isn't able to do the right thing.

You could build a kernel without the fakertc device; then you'll
be prompted for date and time when you reboot.  Or connect to
the internet so the date can be set from ntp.

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

Am 2013-04-28 23:07, schrieb Bakul Shah:
> On 28 Apr 2013 22:01:17 +0200 "Holger Sebert"
> <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>> I did a quick hack on kbd.c and could make the "<,>,|" key
>> work. Awesome! Thank you all for your help.
>
> What was the fix?

The relevant section from kbd.c is

	if(kbscan->esc1){
		c = kbtabesc1[c];
		kbscan->esc1 = 0;
	} else if(kbscan->esc2){
		kbscan->esc2--;
		return;
	} else if /* ... */

The logic that is implemented here implies that
sequences of the form "e0 xx" cannot be combined
with a modifier like Shift or AltGr.

Since "<,>,|" is the only key on my keyboard for
which this is relevant, I simply changed the first
line to

	if(kbscan->esc1 && c != 0x58){
              /*...*/


This way, the sequence "e0 58" is actually interpreted
as "58", so that Shift and AltGr again work.

Of course, this is not a clean solution at all. But at
least it does not change the semantics of the kbmap-file.

>
>> In the 'bcm' directory some modules refer to 'omap' although
>> they apparently mean 'port', like this:
>>
>> #include "../omap/random.c"
>>
>> which should be
>>
>> #include "../port/random.c"
>
> Files from ../port are automatically picked up so you don't
> need files in bcm that just include ../port/something.
>
>> Furthermore, I noticed that the build system would build _all_
>> of the kernel each time I invoke 'mk', even though only little
>> or nothing has changed. Is this the way it is intended to be?
>
> Looks like your source files have a modification time newer
> than the current time (as seen on your machine).  Either
> manually set date/time on boot (if not connected to the net)
> or set
> 	TIMESYNCARGS=(-n pool.ntp.org)
> in /rc/bin/termrc.local.  Pick a public ntpserver near you
> instead of pool.ntp.org.

Oh yes, did not think about the missing RTC on the Pi. Thanks
for the solution!

Best,
Holger

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Holger Sebert]

Hi,

Am 2013-04-28 23:14, schrieb Richard Miller:
>> #include "../omap/random.c"
>>
>> which should be
>>
>> #include "../port/random.c"
>>
>> Although it was easy to fix, I wonder where this inconsistency
>> in the source tree came from. Did I miss an update or something?
>
> I think you did.  /sys/src/9/bcm/random.c should have been deleted.

Should this have happened when I invoked 'pull'? Or is there a
separate update mechanism?

>> Furthermore, I noticed that the build system would build _all_
>> of the kernel each time I invoke 'mk', even though only little
>> or nothing has changed. Is this the way it is intended to be?
>
> Is your pi connected to the internet?  If not, its time will be
> reset to the kernel build time each time you reboot (a function
> of the "fakertc" device, which was probably not a very good idea).
> When time goes backwards, 'mk' isn't able to do the right thing.
>
> You could build a kernel without the fakertc device; then you'll
> be prompted for date and time when you reboot.  Or connect to
> the internet so the date can be set from ntp.

Yes, I forgot that the Raspberry Pi does not have an RTC; and I do
not connect it to the internet everytime I switch it on. Time for
me to get an RTC add-on! Thanks for your help!!

Best,
Holger

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[Richard Miller]

>> I think you did.  /sys/src/9/bcm/random.c should have been deleted.
>
> Should this have happened when I invoked 'pull'? Or is there a
> separate update mechanism?

Yes, it should have been deleted by the first 'pull' after 1 April:

term% grep sys/src/9/bcm/random.c /dist/replica/client/plan9.log
1364809803 16381 d sys/src/9/bcm/random.c - 664 sys sys 1342801416 0
term% date 1364809803
Mon Apr  1 10:50:03 BST 2013

Re: [9fans] German USB keyboard on Raspberry Pi

[arisawa]

Hello,

I have a similar problem with JIS keyboard.
some keys such as | ~ \ _ ¥ won't be input.
I suspect this is same origin.

Kenji Arisawa

On 2013/04/29, at 5:01, Holger Sebert <Holger.Sebert@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> I did a quick hack on kbd.c and could make the "<,>,|" key
> work. Awesome! Thank you all for your help.