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From: Ozan Yigit <oz@blue.cs.yorku.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] design issues in operating systems
Date: Mon,  3 Dec 2001 18:03:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vi4vgfour0b.fsf@blue.cs.yorku.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tLyO7.14632$Ao6.1261334@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

josh d <blah@microsoft.com> writes: [re: linus commentary on design]

>   Considering the popularity of Linux vs the popularity of Plan9, he may
> have a point.  Think about the issues and don't automatically descriminate
> because he said something you dislike.

i for one classify what linus says about design in the same category
of the "cathedral and the bazaar" proclamations. this is shallow stuff
that happens to have the right sound-bite quotient; ideal for the masses
that want quick, cheap bits of wisdom. i wish someone would do to this
what perlman does to network protocol design.

or perhaps i misunderstand all of it: there may be a taoist
undercurrent here:

	the design (tao) had best be left at rest.
	like little birdies at their nest.

so linus did not "design" linux, but it is emergent.

it makes my head spin.

oz
---
www.cs.yorku.ca/~oz	 | narrowness of imagination leads to
york u. computer science | narrowness of experience. - oz [corollary to rob]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-03 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-02 17:05 Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-12-03 10:09 ` josh d
2001-12-03 15:24   ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-12-03 15:08     ` Lucio De Re
2001-12-03 15:48     ` andrey
2001-12-03 18:03   ` Ozan Yigit [this message]
2001-12-03 20:51     ` Mike Haertel
2001-12-03 10:10 ` north_
2001-12-03 16:55   ` John S. Dyson
2001-12-05  9:56   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-12-03 14:49 bwc
2001-12-03 15:45 bwc
2001-12-03 16:07 anothy
2001-12-03 16:04 ` Lucio De Re
2001-12-03 16:27 presotto
2001-12-03 21:31 rob pike
2001-12-03 21:34 rob pike
2001-12-03 22:01 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-04 19:05   ` Dan Cross
2001-12-04 21:59     ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-07  9:36       ` Barry
2001-12-03 22:50 jmk
2001-12-04 10:36 forsyth
2001-12-04 17:27 erik quanstrom
2001-12-05  8:49 Fco.J.Ballesteros

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