From: ori@eigenstate.org
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] DNS/ICMP via sshnet(4) or drawterm
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2023 18:42:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0BCEE42528CE6C80EFFD5B6D3B7CEC47@eigenstate.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F6D5307521042864E3289552B50CF204@smtp.pobox.com>
if the goal is dns, it may be better to simply make us
fall back to dns-over-tcp.
Quoth Romano <unobe@cpan.org>:
> Hi y'all,
>
> I'm interested in getting DNS/ICMP working over sshnet(4) or
> drawterm and want to get feedback to make sure it's not a fool's
> errand. A simple 'No.' would suffice.
>
> First, I saw that drawterm provides /mnt/term/net/udp/, and so
> attempted to do the following within drawterm as a proof-of-concept,
> to see if I could use drawterm instead of sshnet:
> bind /mnt/term/net /net echo -n INTERNAL_DNS_SERVER >
> /env/DNSSERVER ndb/dnsgetip INTERNAL_HOST_NAME
> but get:
> ndb/dnsgetip: INTERNAL_HOST_NAME: dns failure: server failure
> I thought that kern/devip-posix.c would have properly passed on udp
> packets. So my first question is: has anyone has done something like
> this using drawterm, and if so, how?
>
> (If my understanding is correct, drawterm would be sending everything
> over 9p, which adds another layer than just using sshnet(4), but might
> not make a difference immediately if I'm just trying for DNS)
>
> Re: sshnet(4), it'd be more complicated because the different
> solutions I've seen on linux hosts use socat and nc to start listening
> on a specific port on the remote host, then set up a pipe between the
> tcp-over-ssh port to whatever udp host and port on the remote host's
> side. So by necessity, sshnet(4) would have to do something similar.
> My initial thought is to use ssh(1) to execute port listening on
> remote host that would then send to a specific udp port/host. So
> maybe something like:
>
> 1. Add a flag to sshnet(4) called -u, which specifies a script to
> call using ssh(1) on the same remote host to setup tcp-over-udp port
> forwarding.
>
> 2. The script would be mere commands to run on the remote host, so
> could be targeted based on the remote host.
>
> 3. The command on the remote host would be executed to implement the
> UDP messages described in ip(3) (i.e., the script would handle the
> ctl, data, err, etc. messaging).
>
> For the script, a stock one might be provided at some point for common
> remote host OSes/setups. Does something like that look practically
> feasible?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-03 22:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-03 21:28 Romano
2023-10-03 22:42 ` ori [this message]
2023-10-03 23:02 ` unobe
2023-10-04 1:04 ` ori
2023-10-04 1:14 ` unobe
2023-10-04 8:35 ` hiro
2023-10-27 11:28 ` mkf9
2023-10-27 13:59 ` ori
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