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* [9front] co-host plan9
@ 2021-01-10 21:25 william Gunnells
  2021-01-10 22:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: william Gunnells @ 2021-01-10 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack. It seems incredibly
difficult to do this using EC2 with pv-grub. I wouldn't even know
where to begin on 9front. So what other options exist to host. I would
assume it would need IPMI support to boot and install.

Regards.

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 21:25 [9front] co-host plan9 william Gunnells
@ 2021-01-10 22:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
  2021-01-10 23:37   ` Stanley Lieber
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lyndon Nerenberg @ 2021-01-10 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

william Gunnells writes:
> Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.

I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
OSes.

  arpnetworks.com

--lyndon

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 22:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
@ 2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
  2021-01-10 23:39     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
  2021-01-10 23:37   ` Stanley Lieber
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: william Gunnells @ 2021-01-10 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

How about native. Trying to stay away from QEMU. I feel QEMU is too
slow which is why I brought up IPMI

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>
> william Gunnells writes:
> > Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.
>
> I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
> 9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
> good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
> OSes.
>
>   arpnetworks.com
>
> --lyndon

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 22:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
@ 2021-01-10 23:37   ` Stanley Lieber
  2021-01-13 22:34     ` magma698hfsp273p9f
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stanley Lieber @ 2021-01-10 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

On January 10, 2021 5:37:15 PM EST, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>william Gunnells writes:
>> Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.
>
>I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
>9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
>good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
>OSes.
>
>  arpnetworks.com
>
>--lyndon
>

tested with 9front:

arpnetworks
ramnode
vultr
linode

sl

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
@ 2021-01-10 23:39     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lyndon Nerenberg @ 2021-01-10 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

william Gunnells writes:
> How about native. Trying to stay away from QEMU. I feel QEMU is too
> slow which is why I brought up IPMI

They have bare metal servers as well.  Check their website.

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
  2021-01-10 23:39     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
@ 2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
  2021-01-11  0:52       ` hiro
  2021-01-11  6:01       ` sirjofri
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thaddeus Woskowiak @ 2021-01-11  0:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

If you are looking to run 9front on a VPS then vultr.com is what
mycroftiv uses to run 9gridchan:

http://doc.9gridchan.org/them/vultr

There are others who successfully use vultr to host 9front machines as well.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:40 PM william Gunnells <gunnells@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How about native. Trying to stay away from QEMU. I feel QEMU is too
> slow which is why I brought up IPMI
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
> >
> > william Gunnells writes:
> > > Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.
> >
> > I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
> > 9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
> > good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
> > OSes.
> >
> >   arpnetworks.com
> >
> > --lyndon

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
@ 2021-01-11  0:52       ` hiro
       [not found]         ` <20210112113523.00007851@tesio.it>
  2021-01-11  6:01       ` sirjofri
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2021-01-11  0:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

what is the problem with that grub you mentioned?
perhaps you're not aware you can boot a 9front kernel from grub just
like a linux kernel...

ipmi is a pain, but i don't see why there should be anything special
about 9front in this regard...

ovh works here

On 1/11/21, Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskowiak@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are looking to run 9front on a VPS then vultr.com is what
> mycroftiv uses to run 9gridchan:
>
> http://doc.9gridchan.org/them/vultr
>
> There are others who successfully use vultr to host 9front machines as
> well.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:40 PM william Gunnells <gunnells@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> How about native. Trying to stay away from QEMU. I feel QEMU is too
>> slow which is why I brought up IPMI
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > william Gunnells writes:
>> > > Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.
>> >
>> > I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
>> > 9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
>> > good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
>> > OSes.
>> >
>> >   arpnetworks.com
>> >
>> > --lyndon
>

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
  2021-01-11  0:52       ` hiro
@ 2021-01-11  6:01       ` sirjofri
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: sirjofri @ 2021-01-11  6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thaddeus Woskowiak

9front perfectly runs on netcup vps. Seems like kvm is generally pretty 
stable for it.

You need to erase the disk and install with mbr, but then I see no 
limitations.

Also netcup is cheap (I pay 2.41€/month) and in Germany, which is good 
for european people.

sirjofri

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
       [not found]         ` <20210112113523.00007851@tesio.it>
@ 2021-01-12 14:09           ` hiro
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2021-01-12 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Giacomo Tesio; +Cc: 9front

i used the horrible java ipmi (or whatever it was) client to stream an
iso image to the computer and boot everything up.
exactly the same as any other remotely bootstrapped computer.


On 1/12/21, Giacomo Tesio <giacomo@tesio.it> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 01:52:27 +0100 hiro wrote:
>
>> ovh works here
>
> Would you mind to share your setup process?
>
> I have no VPS on OVH right now, but I do not remember anything that
> could allow installing a 9front image.
>
> Or maybe you are thinking about running qemu on a linux VPS?
>
>
> Giacomo
>

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-10 23:37   ` Stanley Lieber
@ 2021-01-13 22:34     ` magma698hfsp273p9f
  2021-01-14  3:31       ` Alex Musolino
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: magma698hfsp273p9f @ 2021-01-13 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> writes:

> On January 10, 2021 5:37:15 PM EST, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>>william Gunnells writes:
>>> Does anyone know where to co-host like ratshack.
>>
>>I've run 9labs on VMs at Arp Networks in the past,  I haven't tried
>>9front, but see no reason why it wouldn't work.  Arp support is very
>>good about helping tune qemu settings to work with non-traditional
>>OSes.
>>
>>  arpnetworks.com
>>
>>--lyndon
>>
>
> tested with 9front:
>
> arpnetworks
> ramnode
> vultr
> linode
>
> sl

ARP Networks is great.  My uptimes on their systems are measured in
years.  They also let you change the image in the virtual CD-ROM.  Their
tech support are (real) human beings who (actually) know what they're
talking about.  And, although the option isn't evident on their webface,
you can pay in Bitcoin... which means you don't have to futz around with
bank accounts, credit cards, or any of that nonsense.

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-13 22:34     ` magma698hfsp273p9f
@ 2021-01-14  3:31       ` Alex Musolino
  2021-01-14 15:57         ` Anthony Martin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alex Musolino @ 2021-01-14  3:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

> And, although the option isn't evident on their webface,
> you can pay in Bitcoin... which means you don't have to futz around with
> bank accounts, credit cards, or any of that nonsense.

Haha, give me a break.  How do you convert your real money to buttcoins
in the first place?  I don't have *any* buttcoins and I'd bet real money
that there's surely some futzing around to be done in order to get some.

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-14  3:31       ` Alex Musolino
@ 2021-01-14 15:57         ` Anthony Martin
  2021-01-14 16:42           ` ori
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Martin @ 2021-01-14 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Alex Musolino <alex@musolino.id.au> once said:
> Haha, give me a break.  How do you convert your real money to buttcoins
> in the first place?  I don't have *any* buttcoins and I'd bet real money
> that there's surely some futzing around to be done in order to get some.

All you need is cold, hard cash.

  Anthony

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-14 15:57         ` Anthony Martin
@ 2021-01-14 16:42           ` ori
  2021-01-14 18:22             ` Benjamin Purcell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: ori @ 2021-01-14 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Quoth Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org>:
> Alex Musolino <alex@musolino.id.au> once said:
> > Haha, give me a break.  How do you convert your real money to buttcoins
> > in the first place?  I don't have *any* buttcoins and I'd bet real money
> > that there's surely some futzing around to be done in order to get some.
> 
> All you need is cold, hard cash.
> 
>   Anthony
> 

That's a problem -- all I have is room temperature floppy cash.

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* Re: [9front] co-host plan9
  2021-01-14 16:42           ` ori
@ 2021-01-14 18:22             ` Benjamin Purcell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Purcell @ 2021-01-14 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front



On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 11:42, ori@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org>:
> > Alex Musolino <alex@musolino.id.au> once said:
> > > Haha, give me a break.  How do you convert your real money to buttcoins
> > > in the first place?  I don't have *any* buttcoins and I'd bet real money
> > > that there's surely some futzing around to be done in order to get some.
> > 
> > All you need is cold, hard cash.
> > 
> >   Anthony
> > 
> 
> That's a problem -- all I have is room temperature floppy cash.
>

Moisten it and put it in the freezer

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2021-01-10 21:25 [9front] co-host plan9 william Gunnells
2021-01-10 22:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2021-01-10 23:12   ` william Gunnells
2021-01-10 23:39     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2021-01-11  0:02     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2021-01-11  0:52       ` hiro
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2021-01-12 14:09           ` hiro
2021-01-11  6:01       ` sirjofri
2021-01-10 23:37   ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-13 22:34     ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2021-01-14  3:31       ` Alex Musolino
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