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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] user none: cwfs vs hjfs
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:55:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XM5cYHSjQnw0q1NUB1Mp_TqCz9VDE5T1RC6xEdjH5urcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFSF3XMA3k7QQLunbbgdKpebtKdFiOqty=Ndk+2S2igOhuJwcg@mail.gmail.com>

if multiple users need to keep state that is supposed to be separated
and private, then those users need to authenticate in a reliable way.

for this we have dp9ik, and fileservers can do user-level and even
group-level separation, so that state can be kept by a single and not
1 fileserver per user.

On 1/21/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
> why do you think running every service as none is a recommended practice?
>
> On 1/21/21, Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> wrote:
>> On January 21, 2021 5:01:06 PM EST, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>otoh not fixing hjfs may break security assumptions.
>>>
>>
>> yes. i think we should fix hjfs. a lot of stuff relies on user none doing
>> what it does in cwfs. the most import thing is that all file systems
>> behave
>> the same way.
>>
>> that said, relegating user none to world readable files while
>> simultaneously
>> running basically every service as none makes isolating services, and
>> more
>> blatantly keeping local users out of service files, difficult if not
>> impossible.
>>
>> i think they got lazy with user none. we need some finer grade control
>> over
>> user capabilities.
>>
>> sl
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-21 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-19 20:16 Stanley Lieber
2021-01-19 20:36 ` hiro
2021-01-19 20:51 ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-19 20:57   ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-19 21:35     ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-19 21:54       ` hiro
2021-01-19 21:58         ` Anthony Martin
2021-01-21 16:22           ` ori
2021-01-21 17:05             ` sirjofri
2021-01-21 17:36               ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-21 22:01                 ` hiro
2021-01-21 22:15                   ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-21 22:51                     ` hiro
2021-01-21 22:55                       ` hiro [this message]
2021-01-21 23:26                         ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-21 23:55                           ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-22  0:13                             ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-23 15:08                               ` cinap_lenrek
2021-01-22  0:24                             ` ori
2021-01-22  0:53                               ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-22  9:53                                 ` hiro
2021-01-22  0:10                           ` Anthony Martin
2021-01-21 23:44                         ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-22  0:00                           ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-22  9:14                           ` hiro
2021-01-22 14:51                             ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-22 15:01                               ` hiro
2021-01-22 15:39                                 ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-22  9:41                           ` hiro
2021-01-21 23:00                       ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-21 23:08                         ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-19 23:04         ` Silas McCroskey
2021-01-20  1:12           ` hiro
2021-01-20  1:50             ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-19 21:07   ` Stanley Lieber

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