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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] /dev/draw performance
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:34:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XMe9M8PBODFbR3JCrBc_ycgDo6k-THRuuapJOwdxOk+5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BF74E0CB-15C1-4F9A-BC6D-B7D2F810A8B9@quintile.net>

nobody said anything about people being inferior.
obviously when the next generation of people stampedes into the unix
room they might do thinks differently. they might have different goals
and different visions.
the can be less consistent than before.
the more people that are involved the less coherence.

so there are enough non-personal reasons that explain it.

regardless i would love to hear the actual personal reasons. cause i'm
curious. and want to understand and learn from their vision, and
possibly a kind of pragmatism they applied that I still lack in this
regard.

i am waiting for a good excuse. i asked for it on 9fans, but nobody
came to admit having written the code in the first place.
if you are on better speaking terms... there's lots of people like me
eager to listen to their answers.

On 11/30/20, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>
> quote:  “The current windowing/graphics setup with /dev/draw as a kernel
> device and rio itself was implemented after Thompson, Ritchie, and Pike left
> Bell Labs and others thought the window system needed optimizing.”
>
> This is not my memory.
>
> work on plan9 switched to Brazil in 95, i believe it was seen as an
> experimental branch to try some major changes. the switch from 81/2 to rio
> and the new /dev/draw model was a major part of this. This was back ported
> to plan9 in time for the 3rd release in 2000 - just around the time many
> left the labs.
>
> I am not saying rio cannot be improved, but characterising it as inferior
> work by inferior people is (i feel) unfair and incorrect.
>
> -Steve
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30  8:03 Steve Simon
2020-11-30  9:34 ` hiro [this message]
2020-11-30 12:22   ` Anthony Martin
2020-11-30 14:09     ` hiro
2020-11-30 18:40 ` Ethan Gardener
2020-11-30 18:59   ` Stanley Lieber
2020-11-30 19:01     ` Ethan Gardener

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